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Published: May 1, 2008
“Where we are now as Church”
Woodland Hills parish donates most of its savings to help the Los Angeles archdiocese pay sexual abuse settlements
To help the Los Angeles archdiocese pay off the “crippling debt” accrued from sexual abuse settlements, St. Bernardine of Siena parish in Woodland Hills will donate most of its savings – about $1.5 million – to the archdiocese, the parish bulletin announced on Sunday.
In a letter to the parish, its pastor, Fr. Robert McNamara, said his decision to donate the money came after meetings with the elected parish council and finance committee. The first meeting, he said, featured “some heated exchanges” and a wide “range of opinion,” with some in favor of “giving all our savings to giving nothing.” The second meeting two weeks later, said McNamara, was “more subdued … We were now more clearly looking at the ‘situation,’ meaning we were trying to see where we are now as Church, and what we need to do, to move forward.” Though the “consensus” was that the parish should give something, there was no agreement on the dollar amount. Finally, said McNamara, the “consensus” was to support whatever decision he made.
McNamara’s decision was in response to an archdiocesan recovery strategy to pay its portion of the sexual abuse settlement as well as ease its financial recovery from the settlements. The strategy includes increasing parish assessments by two percent, reducing archdiocesan administrative costs by 10%, and requesting grants, pledges, and loans from parishes. As a last resort, the archdiocese will consider selling additional properties beyond the 51 it has slated for sale.
According to the March 14 Tidngs, the archdiocesan newspaper, from two sexual abuse settlements – last year’s “global settlement” of 508 cases and a December 2006 settlement of 45 cases – the archdiocese has agreed to pay $720 million. Of this amount, the archdiocese is paying $292 million; insurance companies, $236 million; while religious orders and other defendants are paying or will pay $118 million. A religious order that did not participate in the global settlement will pay a portion of the remaining $74 million, leaving an estimated $50 million, which the archdiocese will probably pay.
According to the Tidings, Cardinal Mahony said he had expected insurance companies to pay a larger portion of the settlements; but Orange diocese’s decision in 2005 to pay 50% of its settlement changed the playing field. "They acted as they saw was the best course at the time. I don't fault them for that," Mahony said. "But their arrangement whereby the diocese paid 50 percent and the insurance companies paid 50 percent also became a new level."
To pay its share of the settlement, the archdiocese received a bank loan of $175 million and sold investments worth $117 million. To pay off part of the loan, the archdiocese expects to sell 51 archdiocesan properties, estimated at $107 million. The archdiocese this month took out another loan of $50 million, using several school properties as collateral. The sale of archdiocesan investment assets will result in a budget deficit of about $12 million a year, which the archdiocese hopes to recover by administrative cost reductions and other measures.
Reflecting on a quote from Mother Teresa – “If you don’t need it, it belongs to someone else” – McNamara wrote that he recalled his parish’s past generosity to missions and victims of natural disasters. “You have given like a people who wanted to make a difference, and a difference you did make,” wrote McNamara. This inspired him to give all of the parish’s savings except $1,000 (“to keep the account open”) to the archdiocese.
The donation does not break the parish, wrote McNamara. “Both parish and school have endowments of approximately $500,000 and $450,000 respectively,” he wrote. “Also, the parish has an emergency maintenance fund of approximately $540,000.”
Posted Thursday, May 01, 2008 4:16 AM By Thomas M. Barnes
Full disclosure: I am a 55 year old grandfather living in N. Virginia who is a survivor of physcial, sexual abuse at the hands of nuns and physical abuse at the hands of priests and lay brothers within the Archdiocese of Philadelphia. I am not a practicing Catholic. I am a former seminarian.
To the parish that gave this money - You did a fine thing. But the truth is, NOTHING that you do will make it better for survivors of abuse at the hands of Catholic "leaders", be they lay or Religious. The damage is irreperable, the soul murder is final and ugly. There is no returning to the fold for us. You can be proud of your sacrifice, you mean well. But do not expect a miracle. We survivors gave up on miracles decades ago.
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Posted Thursday, May 01, 2008 5:00 AM By JPeterman
Hope their parish doesn't need a new roof, AC unit or parking lot repairs any time soon.
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Posted Thursday, May 01, 2008 9:41 AM By kevin halligan
It is only when the cooperating bishops and chancery people in this scandal are removed from positions of authority that any real change will take place in the church. Punish the leadership and praise those who protect the victims. Right now priest reporters fear reprisal from the homosexual mafia in the church. The whistle blowers are still being punished.... unless there is a change in this,... your money was wasted.
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Posted Thursday, May 01, 2008 9:50 AM By Michael B. Layton
If this generous donation from St. Bernardine guarantees the resignation of Cardinal Mahony then it is money well spent. If not, then the parish should have hung on to the money because they are going to need it if the Archdioese folds. And, it may well do so if Mahony remains.
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Posted Thursday, May 01, 2008 10:09 AM By Bill Buckley
Does Roger Mahony truly believe the vast majority of LA laity do not see through this announced PR stunt, to try to hoist more costs onto all other parishes?
Perhaps the Cardinal does believe it, despite a MASS Exodus from the pews locally & nationally, as well as donations DOWN by over 42%, per NCCB internal hard numbers.
No Curia Accountability? No Laity Monies! It's THAT Simple.
William F. Buckley, Jr.
Reporting From Heaven
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Posted Thursday, May 01, 2008 10:21 AM By Eileen
What an incredible gesture of generosity. Too bad it is going to be funneled into a bad Archdiocese that promoted, and protected bad clergy. How will money restore all of the damage that victims of horrendous abuse and the numerous victims of terrible catechisis programs, who haven't the first clue as to what the Church really teaches? A poorer Cardinal Mahony might have been forced to become a holier Cardinal Mahony. I think this is no different than donating $1.5 million dollars worth of liquor stores to a group of drowning alcoholics. A poorer Church just might be a holier Church! I wish Father McNamara's memory for Mother Teresa's, "If you don't need it, it belongs to someone else" would have inspired him to give that money to Mother Teresa's Sisters of Charity. They are still doing good works in "great poverty".
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Posted Thursday, May 01, 2008 10:24 AM By Matt
Why can't the archdiocese raid the Cardinal's pension fund, sell his residence and those of all his conspirators in the cover-up. Not to mention, he needs to sell the ugly Cathedral. After that, then he can ask parishoners for help.
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Posted Thursday, May 01, 2008 11:47 AM By Andrew
Mr. Barnes,
I do not believe that you are damaged beyond the ability of God's healing. I greive that you were hurt this way. I live in N. Virginia as well. Would you be willing to meet with a local priest? Either way you are in my prayers.
Andrew
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Posted Thursday, May 01, 2008 12:44 PM By Beney
Well, whether this offer was an act of generosity or foolishness (or maybe both!) only time will tell.
However, my internal radar went off with the invocation of those dreaded Amchurch buzz-words: "move forward" and "consensus." After the oft-heard, but vacuous "vibrant", these two make me cringe, uneasy and suspect that the "poor old faithful" are being manipulated once again by those in power. One wonders what pressure was brought to bear on those whose "range of opinion" didn't support the pastor in this possibly reckless course of action. I know from experience how these "consultations" are rigged in advance to yield a desired outcome. So much for transparency!
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Posted Thursday, May 01, 2008 12:57 PM By Georgia
"Rob Peter to pay Paul", or to be more exact "Rob the parishioners of St Bernadine of Siena parish to Pay Rodger Cardinal Mahony and his corrupt Associates". Legally the State holds the Archdiocese of Los Angeles responsible for the debt, but morally the debt belongs to those who committed the crimes, the homosexual perpetrators and priests and bishops who protected tmem. Why is it that the estates of these bishops, priests, and homosexual perpetrators are not attached?
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Posted Thursday, May 01, 2008 2:35 PM By Mary
Right on, Matt!
Raid the Cardinal's pension fund; sell the Cardinal's residence and those of his cohorts; and sell that anti-Catholic, ugly cathedral. The cathedral itself if "soft."
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Posted Thursday, May 01, 2008 3:25 PM By Laurette Elsberry
Beney is on top of things. When you read the words "Move forward", "vibrant", etc. you should cringe because these are a couple of the leftie terms in the church used by the "Call to Action" crowd. They just don't get the message about all of this. Another term to watch out for are the variations of phrases with the "we are Church" theme, as was used by Fr. McNamara, the church pastor. A dead giveaway for a "progressive" parish.
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Posted Thursday, May 01, 2008 3:45 PM By LCB
It's a good thing that "We are Church" and it's all about us.
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Posted Thursday, May 01, 2008 4:50 PM By JimAroo
Remove those who covered up and facilitated this scandal and we will all dig deep to help with the settlement. Until then, not a penny I donate goes to the archdiocese. I make my donation to poor parishes directly not thru Together in Mission. None of the money I give to my fine parish is subject to the Cardinal's assessment. NOT A PENNY!
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Posted Thursday, May 01, 2008 6:17 PM By Miguel
I'm still waiting to here about any public or civil sex abuse settlements. Let me see possibly thousands against public school teachers or employees. But of course nothing.
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Posted Thursday, May 01, 2008 8:34 PM By Thomas
Now that pastor has decided to donate the money, I wonder how many parishoners will leave being disgusted that their hard earned tithing is gone? The innocent parishoners are the ones paying the price and suffering for the sins of the bad apple clergy. I am very sorry for what happened to the sexually abused victims. Nearly three quarters of a billion dollars in settlement costs but what relief has it brought the victims? No amount of money can restore their faith in the church. Is the money assisting in the victims recovery? I hope the psychiatrics don't take advantage of the victims too. Just remember this, God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Ghost loves each of you victims and truly does feel your grieving. They will restore your souls and earthly lives if you only allow them to do so. Open your hearts, do not shut the door on the Blessed Trinity nor the Holy Family. Time can not be turned back and ugly memories erased. Let God work His justice on the culprits of these awful sex crimes. Vengence is mind says the Lord. Do not despair and loose your catholic faith.
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Posted Thursday, May 01, 2008 10:19 PM By Eddo
Wow as a Catholic I am appaled, if my money went to paying off these perverts crimes I would walk right out of that Church. Mahoney is a disgrace.
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Posted Thursday, May 01, 2008 10:48 PM By simone_dubois
This is off subject but I have to ask if anyone can answer my question. Does it bother anyone else to be called "church"? as in the title above, "where we are as church." (note: english article "the" is missing) It really bothers me to no end. Maybe it shouldn't but I am not church, I know a guy named church though. Now if my name were Church and if I were a guy then maybe I wouldn't mind being called church by say my team mates, since that would be my name. I am a member of the church, but not as in "hey, there goes Ralph Church". If I were named Church I might resent this theft of my name. I am not church. I am a member of the Church though. This really bothers me, it's really strange and odd. Can anyone explain to me why people are going around saying "we are church"? I don't think we should appropriate people's names like that. What do we do if someone says, 'hello, church" at church? Does everyone respond or do just Ralph Church and his kin answer? Do they say "yeah I'm Church", or do they just say hello back? Am I just bothered by grammar misuseage? Where is church anyway? Is it down the street or has church invaded my space? Did church get in me? Can I get him out? Should church be in there? If I am now church does that mean I am related to Ralph? thanks for any help with these questions.
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Posted Friday, May 02, 2008 6:53 AM By Robert Morris
Fr. McNamara must be cuckoo to give his parishioners' to money to pay off Mahony's self-incurred debt. Shame on all parties concerned.
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Posted Friday, May 02, 2008 7:03 AM By Eileen
Simone, the answer to your question can be found in the original movie called "The Invasion of the Body Snatchers".
A little town called Santa Maria is taken over by alien forces.
If the townspeople "fall asleep" those alien forces turn the people into droning pods. They become just a robotic shell of there once former self. The way to avoid this invasion of the mind is to simply "not fall asleep". Hence, the reason that you are hearing "We are Church". We are witnessing numerous pods that have fallen asleep and their minds have been taken over. The solution......"Stay Awake"! Everyone should watch this movie which is extremely insightful. Simone, you even sound like the main character who is warning people. Watch the movie. You'll be comforted that you are not alone.
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Posted Friday, May 02, 2008 8:12 AM By Laurette Elsberry
Simone Dubois, you put this whole nutty thing in perspective! What a bunch of idiots these "church" people are.
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Posted Friday, May 02, 2008 1:20 PM By Vicky
Eileen's observation concerning, The Invasion of the Body Snatchers is amazing, but for one exception. These catholic "ROBOTS" of St. Bernardine's, and thousands of parishioners around the world, are awake. I think their continued (mindless) obedience to this roman catholic system is all based on fear. And this fear comes from a lifetime of indoctrination that says, "If you don't do as you are told, we can damn you for it." And therein lies the power. If catholics would only wake up to see that they have nothing to fear from Our Divine Savior. You are listening to con men who are ruling you with fear. Listen to GOD who loves you, and not to bully priests and bishops who are lost themselves.
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Posted Friday, May 02, 2008 2:00 PM By Dan
Vicky, the problem is not the "roman catholic system" as you call it, but a few bad apples in it; and I don't know any fellow Catholics I would call mindless. I've come across some pretty deep thinkers in my Catholic life. Some of us esteem Catholic leaders out of love for Christ and belief that they are ordained to shepherd the flock. I also have no concept of your claim that we who are Catholics are run by fear. It sounds like you got your information from a Jack Chick comic book. While I don't necessarily agree with Fr. McNamara's actions, I can't for that reason question his salvation (or that of Mahoney, though I am sorely tempted to do so). There are con men in every church, it must be admitted. And God will have the last word so far as they are concerned. I have also to think that those parishoners at St. Bernardines who voted with Fr. McNamara are acting in accord with their consciences and are hardly robots.
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Posted Friday, May 02, 2008 2:28 PM By Patricia R
Actually, WE ARE CATHOLIC. Let's pull together, as the body of Christ, not become a fragment of waste. Lots' of $$ is ready to go to the LA Diocese. That is hurtful to many. But, dont' leave the Jesus Christ in the Blessed Sacrament. This is a time of great trials for thousands. Pray for those Bishops and Cardinals who are wayward....that is our duty to Jesus Who died for them. Please put away your hurts, disgusted as you are, and please meditate on the Agony of Our Lord. Try and put these things on a very high shelf and call on the Holy Spirit. "Jesus I Trust in You".....please.
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Posted Friday, May 02, 2008 3:45 PM By Mela
Eileen, I like the description you gave about the "Body Snatchers". I feel those that have fallen asleep or are asleep are the Pope, Cardinals, Bishops and Priests and Nuns. Their minds have been snatched. They have become robotic shells with no emotions, dead to their True Selves. Doing whatever they're being told to do with no questions asked, "mindless Obedience". And in turn, they have snatched and taught their parishioners to do the same. Yes, there are those that have spoken up, disagreeing with the Church Authority and they have been quieted for this! Is this a "Church" of Love or Fear! Fear of the Higher Upers. Do I agree with McNamara's action of giving the parishioner's money to Cardinal Mahony (who by the way is one of the wealthiest Cardinals in the US)
No! Absolutely Not! Why should the people be made responsible for the sins of the Pope, Cardinals, Bishops, Priests, Brothers, Monks and Nuns. This is absurd! Priests are taught to be good salesmen, in order to get what they want, here being monies to send to Cardinal Mahony! Cardinal Mahony is being enabled to continue in his ways!!!
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Posted Friday, May 02, 2008 4:55 PM By simone dubois
thank you Eileen, I will watch it asap especially since I have to stay awake anyway :). I love the Church, I love the Holy Father all those Bishops united to him, the good and holy priests and nuns and especially all fallen commrades in this battle against powers and principalities. I have decided though that I don't think I love Church. Ralph's a nice guy and all, he has a right to protect his name but, well, "to Church or not to Church, that is the question.... whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous Churching or to take arms against a sea of troubles and by opposing end them, aye thats the rub..." nuf said...
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Posted Friday, May 02, 2008 9:54 PM By xxx
As a parishoner Of St. B's I am appauled. To trasnslate our generosity of $'s towards Katrina vicitms, as Father Mac did, to knowing that we parishoners welcome being generous to manipulators and protectors of perpertrators is absolutely insulting and abusive in and of itself! If he truly believed that we would want to make this sort of contribution, why didn't he simply ask us parishoners? Yes, we are a generous parish; but, I do not believe that if he pleaded, to the parishioners, to donate to this cause, his basket would have been filled. Our donations will be going elsewhere, as will our family !!!
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Posted Saturday, May 03, 2008 9:09 AM By Kate
Our parish held an open public meeting, at which anyone could speak, before deciding how to handle Cardinal Mahony's request for money to help pay off the $50 million high interest commercial loan that the Archdiocese had to take out. Their recommendation was far, far, far less than
$1.5 million. Our parish finance council had already met and had a recommendation on how much money to loan, not give, the archdiocese, with loan terms set by our parish
(3 years at no interest, with a call- back provision written in, so we could ask for the money back before the 3 years is up, if needed). Our parish tried to be as transparent as possible in the process of deciding this. The parish finance council, made up of lay people, decided the amount to offer and the terms. Their decision could have been voided if enough people spoke against it. But because the Archdiocese would be in an even worse financial situation if it had to pay the interest on the commercial loan, our parish decided to offer the loan. TRANSPARENCY AND LAY DECISION-MAKING are the keys, though, especially in a highly controversial matter such as this. One person, priest or not, should not make this decision alone. That's how the whole abuse crisis ballooned in the first place. Too many individual clerics made crucial decisions, WITHOUT ACCOUNTABILITY to anyone. This, precisely, is what ails the Roman Catholic Church and ails it badly.
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Posted Saturday, May 03, 2008 11:56 AM By Betty
Kate, I thought what you said was great. I was a little put off by that opening sentence about an open parish meeting at which anyone could speak. Our parish was promised the same kind of meeting at one time and we turned out enthusiastically. But guess what? After we were all assembled the rules were laid down. No speaking any longer than two minutes and the parish secretary had a timer to tell us when the two minutes were up. Plus, nobody can respond to what has been said. Just say what they wanted and sit down. WE INNOCENTLY ASKED WHY WE WEREN'T TOLD ABOUT THESE RULES until we were already there. We would have liked to know about them beforehand. We never got an answer. Very few people turned out for the next meeting and there was no meeting after that.
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Posted Saturday, May 03, 2008 12:12 PM By Vicky
A Few Bad Apples, Dan? 5,000 (or more) sexually deviant priests. 14,000 (or more) sexually butchered Roman Catholic Children. Hundreds of bishops concealing the largest mass sexual victimization of children in the history of the world. A Few Bad Apples? Then Dan, stand up on your hind legs and get rid of these, "Bad Apples". Tell the church you want the, "Bad Apples" gone. You can do this by denying them your money. And I am still waiting to hear how much Mahony spent fighting the Victims for more than five years. Talk about a "Bad Apple".
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Posted Saturday, May 03, 2008 6:20 PM By gravey
It seems to me, some Parishes are in need of a massive adjustment. So many have turned into mutual admiration societies, centered around raising money to maintain the how-great-art-we activities of the few. How about if Parishes start selling off everything but the Church building and a modest residence for the priest. All monies collected go to maintaining just the Church, the Priest(s) living expenses and efficacy of the Sacraments. No more employees, no more recreation centers, nothing; just the Church, the Priest and the Sacraments. RCIA, Catechism, St. Vincent De Paul, and every other program is through volunteers and donations; otherwise, gone. Eliminate the horizontal self-grandizing and return to the vertical worship of God. Sorry for the rant but there is just too much focus on money in too many Parishes.
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Posted Saturday, May 03, 2008 7:56 PM By Dan
And I am still waiting to hear how much Mahony spent fighting the Victims for more than five years. Talk about a "Bad Apple". Well, I agree with you Vicki on the last score. And I do withhold money from the Archdiocese if I think it is going to fix Mahoney's mess. I would like him to sell his cathedral first, since it is a travesty IMO; he ought to sell what he has and go to a monastery in pennace for the harm he has brought. And if he is actually guilty of a crime, I would visit him in the county jail. May I ask, however, where those numbers came from?
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Posted Sunday, May 04, 2008 11:00 AM By Vicky
Dan, read the Dallas Charter and the John Jay Study. Also, bishopaccountability.org will give you the names of the (known) perpetrators in the US. The Victims have been trying to educate the Faithful for years about these monstrous crimes against the most precious of all GOD's creations. We've given you the tools, now it is up to you. If you care about your children, and are willing to work for their safety, you can make a difference, just as the Victims have.
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Posted Sunday, May 04, 2008 4:29 PM By Sonja
We must not forget the Victims of sexual abuse by nuns. And while the numbers of these female perpetrators are smaller than their male counterparts, their deviant acts are nonetheless shameful and just as destructive to the lives and futures of the children, teenagers and vulnerable adults who were unfortunate enough to fall victim to their devices. And the coverup by the superiors of the various orders where these disgusting events occurred are just as criminal as the coverups by the bishops. One would think we could expect better from the women of our church.
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Posted Sunday, May 04, 2008 10:07 PM By Mary
involved in cover-ups, ridding parishes and schools of known homesuxual priests, and revishing the policy that puts the emphasis on parents as predators, rather than the pederast priests.! Lots of food for thought. I will add one more caviat. I do agree with withholding donations until the bishops truly address the problem of sexual abuse within the church. This means a public appology from every bishop
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Posted Monday, May 05, 2008 3:05 PM By Vicky
And Dan, rent the video, "Deliver Us From Evil". See and hear what Victims have suffered. Read the book by Tom Doyle, Patrick Walsh & Richard Sipe, "Sex Lies And Secret Codes". These men were on the "inside" and studied this scandal from the standpoint of scholars. Doyle was posted at the Vatican when he spoke up, and was booted from his post. The most important way to learn however, is from the Victims themselves. Invite them to speak at your parishes. Be Brave & Listen. Be Brave & Learn.
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Posted Monday, May 05, 2008 4:49 PM By Diane
Fr. Mac is one of those many dedicated, holy priests who became priests to serve God and his flock, whom Mahony never saw fit to elevate to higher office....not even Monsignor---no, just his buddies at the St. John's Seminary were promoted on up to bishops and are now part of the Sodom and Gomorrah clique in California. I was in Fr. Mac's parish at St. John Eudes in Chatsworth for 12 years. He was loved and revered and many parishioners followed him to St. Bernardine's. I am sure that Fr. Mac agonized long and hard over this and knew how the parishioners felt also, but he could not have done otherwise.....he was and is God's representative on earth and how fortunate parishioners are to have him. Their magnanimous gift was given to the unfortunate sex abuse victims of Mahony, not to Mahony. These victims did not have a Fr. Mac; they had a pedophile priest who was transferred by Mahony to other parishes! How could these wonderful parishioners do otherwise? By the way, why isn't Mahony gone?
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Posted Wednesday, May 07, 2008 4:49 AM By Norma Villarreal
McNamara' parish is generously donating to the victims of clergy sexual abuse and "cleaning up a mess" left behind by Cardinal Mahony. (It seems that Mahony and others responsible for passing on sexual predators still do not accept responsibility in the matter.) Actions speak louder than words and McNamara's heart is in the right place.
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Posted Wednesday, May 07, 2008 8:58 PM By Anne
Simone_Dubois, I agree with you about the expression "We are church". It is idiot. As a woman who had two pregnancies, I feel the same about the expression "We are pregnant". That, too, is idiot. My husband has never been pregnant; I was. Therefore, I resent the expression.
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Posted Wednesday, May 07, 2008 9:04 PM By Anne
Sorry! I meant "idiotic" in my last e-mail. I really need to go rest my eyes.
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