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Published: August 3, 2007
Disinvited
St. Thomas More Society of San Diego rescinds invitation to “womanpriest”
Just days before her scheduled appearance before the St. Thomas More Society of San Diego, the group’s board of directors has voted to disinvite “womanpriest” Jane Via.
At a hastily called special meeting on July 30, the society’s board of directors voted to cancel Via’s speaking engagement. She was scheduled to speak today.
Sources on the board told California Catholic Daily that some members had threatened to resign from the society if Via’s speech went forward. They said that the invitation was taken on the initiative of one member of the group, without authorization from the board or the knowledge of other members of the society.
The decision marks the second time Via has been invited, then uninvited, by the St. Thomas More Society of San Diego. In 1985, while teaching at the University of San Diego, a “Catholic” institution, Via signed a statement challenging Church teaching on abortion that was published in the New York Times, which prompted then Bishop of San Diego Leo Maher to place her under interdict. The Thomas More Society had scheduled a speech by Via, but, after the bishop’s interdict, decided to cancel.
Via says she was ordained a “womanpriest” aboard a boat on the St. Lawrence River on July 24, 2006. That same month she met with Bishop Robert Brom, who, after Via refused to back down, placed her under interdict. At the time of the most recent St. Thomas More Society invitation, Via was under interdict for openly defying Bishop Brom.
Last summer, Bishop Brom forwarded her case to the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith in Rome for further action, possibly a formal declaration of excommunication.
Posted Friday, August 03, 2007 4:48 AM By phil floersh
This is totally unbelieveable! Almost like the Knights inviting some clown as this individual. Never happen, right Tony?
phil
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Posted Friday, August 03, 2007 5:43 AM By Thomas J.
This is good. She should not be called a womanpriest because there is no such thing, nor will there ever be. This lady needs help and prayer.
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Posted Friday, August 03, 2007 6:52 AM By semperficatholic
Quote: "They said that the invitation was taken on the initiative of one member of the group, without authorization from the board or the knowledge of other members of the society." JUDAS LEFT MANY OFFSPRING!
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Posted Friday, August 03, 2007 8:17 AM By Laurette Elsberry
The one person who orchestrated the outrageous invitation to “womanpriest” Jane Via to speak to the St. Thomas More Society needs to be exposed and expelled from the Society to prevent and deter that person and others from carrying out such travesties in the future! Now is the time for the membership of the St. Thomas More Society, like so many Catholic organizations and dioceses and religious orders to do some long needed housecleaning. All too often a small clique or even a single individual has the will and ability to get into leadership positions and then boldly use and make opportunities to promote dissent, deceit, heresy, discord, and politically correct immorality like abortion and “gay” sodomy. These dissenters are successful and emboldened to even more outrageous acts, because they find that the other members are so apathetic, or so afraid of any confrontation that the dissenters can do as they please, with almost no risk of any consequences. For example, just one member of the San Diego St. Thomas More Society was able to orchestrate the invitation to “womanpriest” Jane Via to speak, even though Bishop Brom had already placed her under interdict. Fortunately, there was enough of a public notice and reaction that some other members of the St. Thomas More Society had the courage to threaten to quit the organization so that the leadership was forced to rescind the outrageous and apparently improper invitation. St. Thomas More Society “Red Masses” in Sacramento and other cities in California and other states have long been scandals as they have honored politicians, judges, and lawyers who have promoted pro-abortion and pro-sodomy legislation and court decisions. Pro-Life advocates have often picketed and protested these scandalous “Red Masses”.
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Posted Friday, August 03, 2007 8:56 AM By FireBurns
I applaud the Society for undoing this debacle, but I also agree that a lot of "Catholic" organizations are due some very basic housecleaning. E.g., elsewhere today is the story -- "A group of Roman Catholics plan to picket the Knights of Columbus' annual convention Aug. 7-9 in Nashville, Tenn., to protest what they call the organization's 'hypocrisy' in allowing pro-homosexual and pro-abortion politicians in its membership....16 Massachusetts state lawmakers — all Knights in good standing — whose votes recently killed a ballot measure that would have enshrined man-woman marriage in the law and banned homosexual so-called 'marriage.' These politicians overrode 170,000 citizens who petitioned to put traditional marriage on the ballot. What's more, seven of these 'Knights' have 'pro-choice' ratings from Planned Parenthood, which runs America's biggest chain of abortion centers." Why is it that so many "Catholic" groups accept dissent members and then modify their own organizations to accommodate their differing views. Say "yes" if you mean yes and "no" if you mean no. There are consequences.
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Posted Friday, August 03, 2007 9:02 AM By Judith M.
I know how Ms. Via feels. I'm the Queen of England, and I can't figure out why I keep being excluded from state events. I was crowned by my pet terrier, fair and square! Why won't they recognize my authority?
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Posted Friday, August 03, 2007 9:07 AM By Tee
It's about time that Catholics, especially those educated and in supposed leadership positions, imbibed courage capsules to have the backbone to stand up for what the Catholic Church teaches. Jane Via's supposed role as "a woman priest" is a masquerade, a joke. Let us pray for this poor soul in her confusion, and may God have mercy on her and all who make up their own rules and roles. May the Holy Spirit infuse them with humility in order that they may return to the teachings of the Catholic Church whether they like them, understand them or not. Obedience is of the highest order.
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Posted Friday, August 03, 2007 1:02 PM By Mary
What a bunch of supercillious chauvenistic pigs.
By all means keep and uphold all the pedophile priests. You get what you deserve.
As for me and my family we are leaving and going to The Episcopal Church of The United States. We will al take our considerable contributions with us.
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Posted Friday, August 03, 2007 2:23 PM By izzy
To priesthood, some women pine............deluded they think to be one......Instead of Sacrifice, they only dine.......with fellow witches and the Demon.
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Posted Friday, August 03, 2007 2:29 PM By John
I agree with comments from others on this story that the Thomas More Society should expell the individual responsible for this invitation from this special society that bears the name of a truly heroic and great Catholic Saint like St. Thomas More. But how was this same woman invited and uninvited for the second time to speak at the Thomas More Society. It seems to me that some detective work is necessary to find out how this invitation to the same person was made twice, and now uninvited for the second time. The Thomas More Society needs to pray to St. Thomas More to get to the bottom of all this happening twice.
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Posted Friday, August 03, 2007 2:51 PM By kevin
Mary,unfortunately for you the Episcopal Church itself is in schism because of its' lack of authority and consistency. Where will you and your money go once you become disillusioned with them. Perhaps you and Ms.Via cannot start another church to meet your needs.
Those "chauvenstic pigs" you refer to seem far less authoritative than yourself,you spoke for your entire family! I couldn't help you refered to the Episcopal church of the United States and not the Anglican Church,enough said.
I pray you and your family return home.
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Posted Friday, August 03, 2007 3:14 PM By Patrick
Goodbye Mary....give our best regards to your Episcopal openly gay bishop and priests........we'll keep praying instead of leaving..............
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Posted Friday, August 03, 2007 3:17 PM By John
To Mary:
Don't let the sanctuary door bopp you on the rear as you leave! By the way, I pray for your conversion.
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Posted Friday, August 03, 2007 4:19 PM By Michae
Mary, Mary, quite contrary...
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Posted Friday, August 03, 2007 5:26 PM By FireBurn
Mary, did all your "considerable contributions" buy your point of view in the past? Good luck in trying to buy the ECUSA as well. "What does it profit you to gain considerable wealth but suffer the loss of your soul?" Do come back when you suffer a change of heart and welcome the Truth you have left.
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Posted Friday, August 03, 2007 6:35 PM By Mary
In the REAL Church, ECUSA, At least one finds the gay priests, bishops etc. living openly and enjoying life and they ARE supported by the majority of the church. There are only 47 churches that have chosen to go the the African Anglican's which happens also to be against church polity.
Give me an open church that accepts gays, lesbians and anything inbetween as equals.
My family and I are proud to now be Episcopalians and we do have a Presiding Bishop who is Primate and who incidently in a wonderful woman.
I would never step foot in another RC church for any reason and I thank God for leading my whole family to a wonderful community that truly loves people and who is not ruled by some demented demon in Rome.
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Posted Friday, August 03, 2007 7:05 PM By Rachel
Mary, the correct terminology should be "pederast priests." I am sure that with your profound insight you do understand the core problem, don't you?
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Posted Friday, August 03, 2007 7:24 PM By Simone Dubois
Mary, I think you are hurt, hurt leads to pride, a deadly combination. I hope and I pray you will come back one day. We do not know why God does what He does but we must acknowledge Him that is Truth itself to be set free.
He decided to make us man & woman and to set us in our roles. It is the prince of darkness that rules this world and tempts us to believe in this world, this chaos, this confusion rather than in Our creator. I urge you to go to the Blessed Mother, the model of humility and God's most exalted creature, yet she was not a priest, she was far greater. Tell her your sorrows, ask her to help. To leave Him will cause you a greater wound than you currently suffer, you will come to miss the most Holy Eucharist terribly. He will welcome you back with open arms when you repent and believe the Gospels. It is the evil one that tempts you to a man made church. I will pray for you, you are my fallen commrade, my sister in Christ and I will never forget to pray for because I will not surrender you to evil, surrender is not an option. Simone Dubois
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Posted Friday, August 03, 2007 8:52 PM By Observer
Mary, since you have pointed out that going to the African Anglicans is against ECUSA policy, I would like to point out that homosexual acts are against God's policy.
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Posted Friday, August 03, 2007 10:10 PM By John L. Sillasen
Mary ("As for me and my family we are leaving and going to The Episcopal Church of The United States. We will al take our considerable contributions with us."): You'll need all that money, as the ticket out of Hell is steep.
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Posted Friday, August 03, 2007 10:23 PM By John L. Sillasen
Actually Mary, you may be inadvertantly doing a great work for Christ by embedding yourself and family in some religious organization separated from the Church. I remember my own days prior to discovery of the Catholic Church, when I would hear "testimony" by former Catholics, who would some way or another diss the Church. I was looking for God then, and somehow realized ... must've been by grace ... that these testifiers really weren't making the case. But it provided me with the knowledge that there was this Catholic Church somewhere, that seemed to be pretty important. So, I looked for it. Hmn, actually as I recall, I didn't even know I was looking for a Church, just for God. Yeah, now I remember, the Church found me. You may very well be helping someone who is really looking for God, by informing them that there is the Catholic Church. Sounds strange, huh, as if everyone has heard of the Catholics. But it's not strange, just fact. So, Mary, go ahead and speak your deepest angst against the Church ... tell as many as you have the strength to tell. It may stir someone to look further, and find the truth. And you will receive a blessing for it. After all, you're not betraying anyone; you're just being honest, right?
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Posted Friday, August 03, 2007 10:48 PM By Frank
The Lair of the Catholic Cavemen blog has an interesting take on this debacle.
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Posted Saturday, August 04, 2007 4:47 AM By R
Mary, who here has been upholding pedophile priests?
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Posted Saturday, August 04, 2007 6:09 PM By Mary
To all of those who have to accuse others of weakness, hurt and other imagined problems for those who have the will to leave the tattered church full of errors and misinterpretations; think about it. With a little education you to can cut the umbilical cord that ties you to the church of rome. This church has kept people under their thumb by myths and untrue stories. Can you believe that those in the RC church believe you should litters of kids and you have no right to your own body and the way it should be used.
Well you can all flounder in the RC church while we glory in the beauty of a church that loves ALL people. Try it, they do love you too.
Have a fun filled eternity my family and I have been assured a wonderful time in communion with all our fellow believers and God/Goddess herself.
Mary
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Posted Saturday, August 04, 2007 11:46 PM By Patrick
Mary or whatever your name: You are a poser and never a Catholic. Thank you for pulling our chain but I knew from your first post that you were a fake. You are a hater of the Catholic Church but instead of being truthful, you pose as an ex-Catholic . We'll pray for you.
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Posted Sunday, August 05, 2007 2:00 AM By Andrew
LOL@Mary. Class A web trolling. Enjoy the slippery slope, but watch out for the bumps.
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Posted Sunday, August 05, 2007 6:02 AM By A Priest
Mary,
How sad that you reject the Faith - the One Church founded by Christ. However, if you leave, it means you never belonged. Because if you knew what you were leaving, you would remain despite our sins, faults and failures. You will never find the Church you are looking for, because the Church founded by Christ is made up of saints and sinners. Despite us, Christ keeps the Church One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic. You are not the first to leave (Jn 6). I stay, dispite my sins and the sins of my brothers and sisters because "to whom shall I go", Christ and His Church alone "have the words of eternal life."
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Posted Sunday, August 05, 2007 6:07 AM By Mark
Regarding the "Posted Friday, August 03, 2007 1:02 PM By Mary." Mary, Mary, Mary ... If you find things in the Episcopal Church of The United States, with which you don't agree, will you leave them and, "take our considerable contributions" with you? It's not about contributions.
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Posted Sunday, August 05, 2007 5:11 PM By R
The "ECUSA" is *the* real Church? Well, I suppose it's the "real Church" for people who don't want to keep their pants zipped - after all, Anglicanism was founded for that very reason.
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Posted Monday, August 06, 2007 12:51 PM By Mary
FWIW:
I went to all years of catholic school to high school. I was confirmed and all of that and atteded until I found the real truth.
Speaking of of people who don't want to keep their pants zipped take a look at all the money the rc church has had to pay out for their backward entering and thinking priests.
At least in the ECUSA the priests marry.
For those of you who are so confused and ignorant of church history and make foolish statements that Anglicanisim was founded for a zipper problem perhaps you need remedial classes in the history of the time.
I have not rejected the faith (sic) I have found the true faith that needs no pope, intercessions, and a bunch of unbiblical tripe.
If the best you can do is ad hom attacks you don't have much to go on. Your failing church needs a lot of uneducated people to support it so we know which court you are in.
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Posted Monday, August 06, 2007 1:57 PM By R
Failing, indeed? Which Church is seriously facing the problem of schism and dissolution?
//their backward entering and thinking priests.//
What, has anyone done a study on the views of the priests implicated in the crisis? You have no idea what the views and thinking of them are, and neither do I.
My comments, though admittedly inflammatory, were based on your comments. You specifically point to Catholic sexual morality, which is largely Biblical, as something you hate about the Church. And although I'm using hyperbole regarding Henry VIII, the ability to obtain a divorce was one reason behind the schism.
Oh, and once again - who has been defending proven (legally) pedophile/pederast priests, as you accused earlier? I want a specific example.
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Posted Tuesday, August 07, 2007 5:56 AM By Gary
What is it with Catholic organizations, colleges, etc. inviting people to speak that espouse positions contrary to the Catholic Faith? Don't they have forums enough in the other colleges, media, etc. It's not as if if the dissenters lack exposure in the culture at large.
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Posted Wednesday, August 08, 2007 10:37 AM By George
Mary, follow who you will. Jesus Christ founded the Roman Catholic Church. In my search for "truth" and in deciding who I will follow, I look to the founder. The founder establishes the organization and sets the rules of how it is to be run. Who founded the ECUSA?
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Posted Wednesday, August 08, 2007 3:06 PM By Mary
The Christ, of course.
Afterall the ECUSA and the whole Anglican Church has as a history of bishops all the way back to rome.
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Posted Wednesday, August 08, 2007 7:31 PM By bruce
Mary, you are utterly incorrect. Anglicans murdered thousands and had priests tortured and killed because being Catholic was against the state law for decades/centuries. How about Bishop John, Fisher, St. Edmund Campion, St. Thomas More, and St. Margaret Clitherow for example. Masses were outlawed. Anglicans lost all ties to Rome - Apostolic Succession - with their invalid so-called priests. The Pope proclaimed such in the 19th century - Apostolicae Curae - “absolutely null and utterly void”. Ratzinger in 1998 reaffirmed this teaching as definitive (dogma). Anglicans do not have a real Mass and lack most other Sacraments too because there is no priesthood. You are exchanging Truth for a lie. Are you changing because the ECUSA has "teachings" more amenable to your personal preferences rather than God's established Church?
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Posted Wednesday, August 08, 2007 11:29 PM By Mike
Why do people who despise Catholics, Catholicisim, the Catholic Church (the one true church), priests, tradition, and normalicy spend so much time and energy on CALCATHOLIC.COM??? Give me a major break here - you are sooooo boring!!!!!
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Posted Thursday, August 09, 2007 9:01 AM By R
And she shows up again, and she still fails to support reasoning for her approval of homosexuality, or accusing us of defending pedophiles.
And she thinks Jesus founded the Anglican Church? Sorry to disappoint, but it only goes back to the 16th century.
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