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Published: January 31, 2008
No idle talk
Archbishop says he will close Catholic Charities rather than compromise Church teaching
Like its sister organization in California did, Catholic Charities in Colorado is facing the prospect of a state law that would require it to violate Catholic teaching. But, unlike his brother bishops in California, Denver’s Archbishop Charles Chaput has said he will shut down his Church’s charitable organization rather than submit.
A bill currently before the Colorado legislature, HB 1080, seeks to add “sexual orientation” to the list of protected classes against which an organization receiving federal or state funding is forbidden to discriminate in employment. The bill provides no religious exemption and so would apply to groups like Catholic Charities, which receive government funding.
Writing in the Jan. 23 Denver Catholic Register, the archdiocesan newspaper, Archbishop Chaput said the bill “would attack the religious identity of religious nonprofits serving the wider community.” Since Catholic non-profits “play a major role in serving the needy through organizations like Catholic Charities -- in fact, Catholic Charities of the Archdiocese of Denver is the largest non-government human services provider in the Rocky Mountain West -- Catholics will bear a disproportionate part of the damage,” said Chaput.
The bill, said the archbishop, “would greatly hinder any Catholic entity which receives state money from hiring or firing employees based on the religious beliefs of the Catholic Church.” Though non-Catholics work for Catholic Charities,” said Chaput, the organization’s “key leadership positions … obviously do require a practicing and faithful Catholic, and for very good reasons. Catholic Charities is exactly what the name implies: a service to the public offered by the Catholic community as part of the religious mission of the Catholic Church.”
Though Colorado Catholic Charities “does not proselytize,” said Chaput, it also “has no interest at all in generic do-goodism; on the contrary, it’s an arm of Catholic social ministry. When it can no longer have the freedom it needs to be ‘Catholic,’ it will end its services.
“This is not idle talk. I am very serious,” said Chaput.
Catholic Charities does receive government funds, said Chaput; but the partnership benefits governments, which “use nonprofits like Catholic Charities is because they’re cost-effective. As a result, government gets much more for its dollar by working through Catholic Charities to reach the poor.” Catholic organizations are “glad to partner with the government and eager to work cooperatively with anyone of good will. But not at the cost of their religious identity. If Catholic groups, said Chaput, “carry part of society’s weight, then it’s only reasonable and just that they be allowed to be truly ‘Catholic’ -- or they cannot serve.”
In 2000, Catholic Charities of Sacramento filed a lawsuit to contest a California law requiring employers receiving government funds to include coverage for contraception in HMO plans that cover prescription drugs. The organization, however, complied with the law while awaiting the court’s decision. The case went to the California Supreme Court, which ruled against Catholic Charities, and, finally, the U.S. Supreme Court, which refused to hear the case in 2004.
In 2006, after it became known that the San Francisco archdiocesan Catholic Charities had facilitated adoptions by homosexual couples, Archbishop George Niederauer came up with a compromise that would allow the organization to continue in adoption work while keeping on the side of state law. Catholic Charities of San Francisco elected to put its adoption staff and financial resources in a partnership with an adoption agency that welcomes adoption by homosexuals.
Posted Thursday, January 31, 2008 2:59 AM By Marty
So Chaput should decline any public money -- it's that simple. But it seems patently ridiculous to assert that Catholic Charities can accept taxpayer money, but reserves the right to discriminate against a particular class of the taxpaying public. It just seems sad that Chaput is willing to suspend the charitable works of the church rather than allow a gay person's partner health insurance. Talk about misguided priorities. No true shepherd he.
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Posted Thursday, January 31, 2008 4:34 AM By gjbrunning
Why not refuse state funds and do the Catholic thing with available church funding? State funding always leads to state control. Just look at our "Catholic" colleges. The only truly Catholic colleges that remain are those who refuse government funds.
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Posted Thursday, January 31, 2008 5:00 AM By Fr. M.P.
It is good to see Archbishop Chaput standing up for Catholic teachings. In the time of England's Protestant revolt, King Henry VIII seized the church properties out of greed, and only afterwards realized how much the people depended on the charity of the Catholic Church. He didn't like spending his own money on the poor. Of course government forced homosexual support doesn't care about charity for the people either. Just another instance of what Our Lady said about governments at La Salette in 1846.
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Posted Thursday, January 31, 2008 5:48 AM By Nigel
Good bless Archbishop Chaput. He is a consistent and strong voice for orthodox Catholic Christianity. Too bad so many of his brother bishops prefer to follow the spirit of the age rather than the Spirit of Truth. While I do not want to see Denver deprived of this great leader, it is my hope that the Pope has a bigger assignment for him in the near future, say Cardinal Archbishop of New York, or Los Angeles. What a 180 they would see in the City of Angels. Keep those prayers coming.
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Posted Thursday, January 31, 2008 5:50 AM By Catholic Lady
It is about ding dang time we have a real Catholic bishop and a real man. This action by the good archbishop should be a mandate coming out of Rome. Where is Rome???????
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Posted Thursday, January 31, 2008 5:59 AM By E Ross
I love this defender of the Faith. God bless you, Archbishop Chaput.
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Posted Thursday, January 31, 2008 6:28 AM By Peter
Good. Close them all. Those dollars will be better spent on similar secular organizations that don't consider discrimination an intergral component of their mission.
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Posted Thursday, January 31, 2008 6:34 AM By 4unborn
Archbishop Niederauer separated his diocese from Catholic principles; Archbishop Chaput chose to keep his diocese Catholic.
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Posted Thursday, January 31, 2008 7:03 AM By Chuck Anziulewicz
If these various Catholic charities are so spiteful toward qualified adoptive Gay couples that they would rather sacrifice public funding than place kids in good home, fine for them. Let them discriminate, but not on my dime. I would not expect Catholic or heterosexual taxpayers to fund programs that discriminate against THEM, so why should I be forced to help subsidize programs that discriminate against ME?
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Posted Thursday, January 31, 2008 7:28 AM By JAS
While it may be true that the government can get more 'bang for its buck' in funding religious nonprofits, I find it sad that some nonprofits have come to depend so much on government funding that without it they can't operate at all. Whatever happened to charity for charity's sake? If religious charity agencies can't be self-supporting, why should tax-payer dollars be used to prop them up, especially if there are other agencies that comply with federal standards?
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Posted Thursday, January 31, 2008 7:59 AM By Camille
Hurrah for ARchbishop Chaput. If only we had religious leaders with such strong and faithfilled convictions.
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Posted Thursday, January 31, 2008 8:04 AM By Robert Lockwood
It is refreshing to see there are at least a few Catholic Bishops that will take a position that fully supports Catholic teaching. So many of our U.S. Bishops are like laymen - they are Catholic in name only.
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Posted Thursday, January 31, 2008 8:11 AM By Steve
Good job Archbishop Chaput for standing up for the church and it's people and not a bad political move either.
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Posted Thursday, January 31, 2008 8:26 AM By Melissa
God bless Archbishop Chaput! The Catholic Church needs to act on it's own teachings...to not be "lukewarm" and throw away the Truth...but to either hot or cold as our Lord Jesus wants us to. Bravo to the shepeherd in Colorado for having the courage to do what few of his fellow bishops do not...Stand for the Truth of Jesus' Church, His bride...regardless of the consequences.
Our archdiocese is currently scandalized in that it offers invitro-fertilization at one of it's hospitals. A friend who is a deacon asked the bishop directly about the situation. His answer? He feels sorry for the parents who want to have a child. While seemingly compassionate...it also leads his own flock into mortal sin...which is the least compassionate thing any of us could ever do. So again, bravo to a bishop who is a hero, a courageous shepherd...not afraid to hurt other people's feelings or be disliked for the sake of the Truth which is love in its highest form.
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Posted Thursday, January 31, 2008 8:54 AM By JuneV
May God Bless Archbishop Chaput for standing up for what the Catholic Church believes in no matter what the cost. It is really too bad the Bishops Wiegand and Niederauer didn't have the same courage. Catholics must step up and defend itself against any and all who try to insert their beliefs into our faith.
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Posted Thursday, January 31, 2008 9:17 AM By Papamac
Bishop Chaput is one of the few Bishops that has stood up for our Faith. He is an inspiration to all of us who look for Leadership and example, Thank God we have him along with Burke and Shanahen just to name a few who will not sell out the Gospels to please the secularists. Bishop Neideraur, what can you say, hopefully he and the rest who border on heresy will soon retire and stop giving in to every secularist agenda that comes along. May
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Posted Thursday, January 31, 2008 9:17 AM By Joyce Fink
I am in total agreement with the archbishop on this one. What a shame it would be to close down Catholic Charities. Do you think the government is that dumb? Never mind, I know the answer.
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Posted Thursday, January 31, 2008 9:23 AM By Jimmy Mac
There's an old expression: if you take the Queen's shilling, then you must do the Queen's bidding. All Catholic Charities has to do is stop taking money for any and all levels of government and these problems should go aways.
A larger issue, of course, is this: by virtue of working in an agency that does receive government funding, do the employees therefore end up as government employees and, therfore, covered by all of the laws that pertain thereto?
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Posted Thursday, January 31, 2008 10:08 AM By Jan Wnek
I don't get it....why should Chaput close down the agency? The diocese is rich enough to provide programs like the many Catholic Worker organizations across the country, who don't get a dime of government funding and yet provide social services to so many. Care to clarify, anyone? Is this a way for a particular diocese to get out of the 'business' of charity, or what?
Pax,
Jan
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Posted Thursday, January 31, 2008 11:08 AM By Daniel
Catholic Charities serves all Faiths, no Gospel teachings, no conversion attempts and best of all the money received is not subject to the corruption that government agencies are involved in, the money goes for those in need. If it tries to operate on only donations it will immediately need to cut it's services to Catholic or Christians ONLY, no way would there be enough money to feed all of the poor, clothe them, provide shelter, medical care, help with bills for electricity and so on and so on. FIND ONE, JUST ONE GOVERNMENT AGENCY THAT DOES AS MUCH AS CATHOLIC CHARITIES OR THE SALVATION ARMY to help those who are in need, it ain't out there.The government should be grateful for organizations that put in so much time, much of it voluntary by the way to help the poor, but our government is so full of corruption at all levels, so full of greed it could really care less for those in need. Now they want to attack CHRISTIANS by using the POOR to get at the Gospels. ArchBishop Chaput needs to stand firm against these sick perverted minds, thank GOD someone is.As for one posting, MARTY, who is being discriminated against, no one is turned away, as far as your pervert partner needing health care, where is your big brother government on this, Clinton was the gigolo President for 8 years, did he provide you, no way, words for votes is what you got. Catholic Charities cannot be everything to everyone, but it feeds and clothes the poor and provides them shelter, where are your government shelters, kitchens, VOLUNTEER WORKERS. CHAPUT, THANKS FOR YOUR LOVE OF THE GOSPELS and telling a sick government where to go, not that they need much help to get there.
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Posted Thursday, January 31, 2008 11:58 AM By Jay
AND. . . .like I mentioned in my comment’s about Bishop Quinn’s remarks yesterday. . . he’s ½ American Indian. Thank God for the “white” European missionaries’ past evangelization efforts who converted Charles Chaput’s ancestors to such strong faith which was past down several generations to him and has lead to his solid formation as to make him such a courageous leader in the American Catholic Church today! Let's all keep the good Archbishop in our daily prayers.
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Posted Thursday, January 31, 2008 12:19 PM By Kenneth M. Fisher
I am often in communication with our faithful Bishops, and I know how much messages of encouragement mean to them.
Please send Archbishop Chaput messages of encourgement!. They have often told me how much these letters mean to them, especially in the face of the awful letters they receive from the other side.
God bless, yours in Their Hearts,
Kenneth M. Fisher, Founder & Chairman
Concerned Roman Catholics of America, Inc.
www.crcoa
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Posted Thursday, January 31, 2008 12:32 PM By Canisius
To Chuck Anziulewicz: Its seems you are just another sodomite who is working to toward the complete overthrow of social mores in the name of "tolerance". Lets be clear your sexual prediliction is NOT NORMAL.,, just as man may attracted to a dog or his sister,, . You just happen to part of a very powerful yet perverted sub sect of society which corrupts everything it touches, including the Church.
You want to be able to adopt children so you say "look we are normal just like you" Well nature and reason condemn you ...Remember this a society which constantly violates the natural moral through "gay rights" abortion, euthanasia, will eventually tear itself apart, and it will happen here too.
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Posted Thursday, January 31, 2008 1:10 PM By Betty
I'd like to join all those who congratulated Archbishop Chaput on his stand. It's about time somebody took a stand like his. For a long time some of us have been asking "is you is or is you ain/t? to Catholic bishops, archbishops, etc. and listening to replies like "Well, if I do that, we'll lose our funding." It's anout time that somebody bit the bullet, as the saying goes.
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Posted Thursday, January 31, 2008 2:27 PM By Maria C
Good bless Archbishop Chaput, he makes me proud and truly is a Christian, Jesus will bless him. We have good bishops and good priests, this is the real faith. Let us praise Jesus for the faithful.
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Posted Thursday, January 31, 2008 3:09 PM By Dan Guenzel
I think it would be instructive for the whole world if Archbishop Chaput kept his Catholic Charities operating, and then simply defied the law - totally and completely - if a homosexual dares at apply for employment.
What are they going to do, fine him? He can ignore it. What will they do next, send the cops in to arrest him? He should stand firm and defiant as the officers arrest him, and then let the whole world witness the spectacle of a Catholic Archbishop being arrested for upholding Catholic teaching. In other words, simply put, His Excellency should merely call their bluff.
Yes, it is easy for me to sit here and say such things while the Archbishop would take the heat but, after all, that's the kind of thing he was made an Archbishop for.
The time is NOW for the Church to put its foot down and say, "No."
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Posted Thursday, January 31, 2008 3:46 PM By David W. Cooney
1: I commend Archbishop Chaput for his stand.
2: I think that, instead of closing the charities, he should refuse to accept the public funds.
3: I find it interesting that the General Assembly is doing this because it "finds, determines, and declares that this act is necessary for the immediate preservation of the public peace, health, and safety.
Tyrants always impose their tyranny in the guise of "doing good." Those who promote diversity do their utmost to force others to be like them. Those who scream the loudest about free speech try to silence anyone who opposes their opinions. Those who tell everyone to be tolerant are the most intolerant.
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Posted Thursday, January 31, 2008 4:20 PM By Russell Neglia
God bless Bishop Chaput. He is a man for all seasons and a man for such a time as this. When it comes to protecting the dignity of life there shall be no surrender and no retreat.
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Posted Thursday, January 31, 2008 5:09 PM By Julia
"It is about ding dang time we have a real Catholic bishop and a real man. This action by the good archbishop should be a mandate coming out of Rome. Where is Rome???????"
Rome is in Italy, madam, which is located on the continent of Europe.
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Posted Thursday, January 31, 2008 5:17 PM By John L. Sillasen
Interesting to speculate on why Abp Chaput chose the particular course of the two available for standing by Church teaching. I'm guessing that to choose to simply reject govt money and keep operating Cath Charities would be only a transitory phase. There are likely a host of contract agreements between CC and the govt. I'd guess that he opens up a private organization without govt money which takes the place of CC. In other words, dissolve the entire contractual mess, the whole involvement with the govt, and then start anew. While at it, I'd like to see him also throw out the window the tax exemptions, so that he and his priests and deacons can preach and teach unfettered by govt desires.
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Posted Thursday, January 31, 2008 5:33 PM By Joe R.
Someone said, "If you take the Queen's shilling, then you must do the Queen's bidding." But, "We the people" don't have or want a Queen.
So, whose money does the government take?
Maybe the government should start existing again for the people again and stop pushing the anti-family and homosexual agenda of a radical fringe minority on us all.
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Posted Thursday, January 31, 2008 6:16 PM By ssoldie
God bless our true and good shepards.
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Posted Thursday, January 31, 2008 7:09 PM By Peter Kullavanijaya
His Eminence has a manly constitution and does not act like his Lavender or Pink brother in California. I'm so very proud of him.
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Posted Thursday, January 31, 2008 7:15 PM By Markus
What is the closest thing California has to an Archbishop Chaput? Does the golden state have any truly solid bishops?
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Posted Thursday, January 31, 2008 7:53 PM By Daniel
California is caput. Catholic Charities should be Catholic or why even have Catholic Charities in the first place. Bravo Archbishop Chaput.
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Posted Thursday, January 31, 2008 8:06 PM By JPeterman
Archbishop Chaput is a hero and a true leader in the Church at a time when such men are a precious few. May God bless his work and bless the Catholic Church with more Bishops like this.
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Posted Thursday, January 31, 2008 8:27 PM By Central Valley
Solid bishops in California?...other than Sacramento, Oakland and the auxiliary in San Diego, I know of none.Fresno suffers greatly under the current sheperd, who in all his years in the Fresno See has never made a statement or exercised any action similar to Bp. Chaput. How the faithful in the Fresno diocese long for a sheperd in the mold of Archbishop Chaput. All we have in Fresno is the persecution of orthodoxy. God bless Archbishop Chaput
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Posted Thursday, January 31, 2008 8:28 PM By Harry
The Forces of the Culture of Death work systematically on the Church to crack its resistance to their agenda. They force a slight but key concession here and then another one there in the hope that eventually the whole structure will cave in. In San Francisco they forced a concession from the Archbishop who put up a rather dispirited fight. They are in the process of doing the same in Minnesota. The Church's fundamental teaching has been compromised in both cases.
That cannot be allowed to continue. At some point we must find bishops who will defend the Faith as they are expected to do and take a stand. The farther we retreat the more difficult it will be to regain the lost ground. Bishop Chaput may be the one make the crucial stand. He deserves the active suppport of all of us, lay and clerical in the upcoming battle.
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Posted Thursday, January 31, 2008 10:14 PM By Kenneth M. Fisher
From personal knowledge, I can assure you all that
Archbishop Chaput does not find it at all hard to do the right thing when it comes to the Faith, but he still needs our prayers and support!
God bless, yours in Their Hearts, Kenneth M. Fisher, Founder & Chairman Concerned Roman Catholics of America, Inc. www.crcoa
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Posted Thursday, January 31, 2008 10:17 PM By Kenneth M. Fisher
Central Valley,
Are you that sure about Sacramento and Oakland?
God bless, yours in Their Hearts, Kenneth M. Fisher, Founder & Chairman Concerned Roman Catholics of America, Inc. www.crcoa
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Posted Thursday, January 31, 2008 11:20 PM By Gary
Finally a cleric who will tell the truth and live his Faith. No quibbling (ala California), no subterfuge (ala California), and no lies (ala California).
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Posted Friday, February 01, 2008 1:15 AM By Angelo
Central Valley, I'm glad you speak up. Many Catholics in
the Fresno Diocese are tired. but they think their voice will be divisive. As we are programed to believe. You should
hear of the story, of a child of less than a year old, who was
dying. The childs Nutrition and Hydration was removed. The
whole liberal diocese rejoiced that soon we would have a little Angel in heaven.
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Posted Friday, February 01, 2008 2:12 AM By Vincent
Dear Dan Guenzel, you state: "and then simply defied the law - totally and completely - if a homosexual dares at apply for employment. What are they going to do, fine him? He can ignore it. What will they do next, send the cops in to arrest him? He should stand firm and defiant as the officers arrest him, and then let the whole world witness the spectacle of a Catholic Archbishop being arrested for upholding Catholic teaching." Upholding Catholic teaching by denying a homosexual man employment?!!! Clearly you do not know Catholic teaching. Read para 2358 of the CCC ... "(gays) must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided." Truth is, you have just revealed your true agenda ... an agenda of hate and not of love. An agenda which appears to be pretty prolific on this website. Let's show gays respect, compassion and sensitivity by denying them employment. That surely counts a s just discrimination, hey bud!
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Posted Friday, February 01, 2008 6:19 AM By Central Valley
Angelo, Recently I attended a baptism. The baptism was performed by a holy priest. The problem is the family had to travel, with their seven other children, over fifty miles. There parish priest does not perform baptisms during lent, or just before lent becasue he is too busy. The faithful in the Fresno diocese address these issues with Bp. Steinbock and the response is that he will always stand by his priests, no matter how wrong they are.
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Posted Friday, February 01, 2008 6:22 AM By Vincent
It might do the neocons well to read the Theological Note by Professor Paul Surliss at http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Theological+Note-a066191273
Therein we find a fascinating expose of the writing of the 1975 document Persona Humana. The personalist theologians on the original team of writers were unceremoniously hoofed off the team. And one of the writers of the final text, Prof Jan Visser of the Propaganda Fide, later distinguished between moral theology and pastoral theology. He is quoted as saying that "when one is dealing with people who are so deeply homosexual that they will be in serious personal and perhaps social trouble unless they attain a steady partnership, within their homosexual lives, one can recommend them to seek such a partnership, and one accepts this relationship as the best they can do in their present situation." Stunning stuff!!!
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Posted Friday, February 01, 2008 8:38 AM By Fred H
Compromise has been the cancer of the Church. Finally a leader who will draw a line in the sand and say no. God bless him.
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Posted Friday, February 01, 2008 8:51 AM By Creeny
Thank you for being a voice crying in the wilderness by defending the Faith!!
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Posted Friday, February 01, 2008 9:23 AM By Innocent III
I had the pleasure of meeting Archbishop Chaput and hearing him speak a few years ago. My first impression? What a SOLID man of God. Of course, these impressions do not always prove accurate because they can be based on emotion. But in this case, I started reading many of the Archbishop's writings online, and I am continually impressed by his courageous stand against the evils of our day. This is a man who would die for his faith and his flock. We must expect no less from our shepherds.
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Posted Friday, February 01, 2008 11:29 AM By Dave N.
I wonder if a fair number of these responders actually read the article. I would simply suggest that the good Abp. read section 2358 of the Catechism of the Catholic Church. The bill (at least IF correctly reported above) is about discrimination in employment, not about gay adoption, contraception or the host of other issues noted. At a minimum, the statements of the Abp. (IF accurately reported) give the impression that the church advocates discrimination against homosexuals, which it does not.
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Posted Friday, February 01, 2008 1:47 PM By Elizabeth
AB Chaput is a TRUE SHEPHERD!!!!
I am saddened that my own AB Niederauer decided to have a 'dog and pony show' with our Catholic Charities and the Homosexual adoption situation.
I am deeply saddened especially since my Pastor, was one of the advisors who advised the AB.
We not only need TRUE SHEPHERDS but also we need to get on the 'same page'.
ALL Catholic Charities need to decline such adoptions or unfortunately close down as AB Chaput said he would do in Denver!
I understand the Vatican is 'not too happy about the San Francisco' situation and I pray they will do something about it soon.
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Posted Friday, February 01, 2008 4:10 PM By John L. Sillasen
Vincent, the partnership the professor is referring to is with God, not some other man.
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Posted Friday, February 01, 2008 4:13 PM By John L. Sillasen
Dave N., contrary to your deceptive hype, the Church does indeed discriminate against homosexual behavior.
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Posted Friday, February 01, 2008 5:48 PM By Mary
Catholic Charities should help Catholics. My family was in dire straits, and I had to go to other charities to get assistance. After applying and being denied for government assistance on a technicality, it was only through a local Catholic fund that was completely for Catholics that we were able to get help. When we went to Catholic Charities, we didn't even get helped by people who were Catholic. St. James said there is a special blessing to give a cup of water to someone who is a brother. Drop the government funding. Government assistance is communism. The widow's mite is charity. Bravo to the bishop for standing up to the government--I pray he takes it to the next step. The best help the Church can give is to invite everyone to Mass and let them truly learn about the Catholic faith. You can't take it when you go, and the less you have when you leave, the better.
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Posted Friday, February 01, 2008 7:24 PM By Ygnacia
God richly bless this good and holy shepherd of souls...please Lord, send us more!!!
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Posted Friday, February 01, 2008 7:46 PM By JPeterman
Vincent: "Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity, tradition has always declared that homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered. They are contrary to the natural law."..That's #2367 from the Catechism. Homosexuals are called to abstinence just as Priests and Religious are.
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Posted Friday, February 01, 2008 8:07 PM By Christopher Zehnder
The phrase in the catechism, regarding homosexuals, "Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided," does not forbid discrimination simply, but unjust discrimination. Obviously, a bishop would want directing a Catholic organization someone who embraces Catholic teaching and is not living in a state in serious contradiction to Catholic morals. To refuse to hire a practicing homosexual in this case would not be *unjust* discrimination.
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Posted Friday, February 01, 2008 10:13 PM By Jim
God bless Archbishop Chaput. We need more bishops like him with a backbone to stand up for what is right.
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Posted Saturday, February 02, 2008 7:33 AM By Grisha
Did I Miss Something? Looking at the Denver Archdiocese site, it appears that the "gay issue" has very little to do with this controversy. Rather, HB 1080 seems to prevent affected religious organizations from limiting employment, at any level, to their own adherents. I know Catholics, gay and straight, who work for Jewish organizations and Jews, gay and straight who work for Catholic organizations. This is a good thing. However it's only reasonable that faith communities have the discretion to restrict what Archbishop Chaput terms "key leadership positions" to their own believers.
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Posted Saturday, February 02, 2008 3:40 PM By TD
The hope is not in the institution or in bureaucratic policies, programs or empty pronouncements. The hope is in the ever increasing number of deeply committed men and women who are being compassionately present to people in need and in pain. These are the men and women of any denomination or belief system or of no denomination but still with a powerful belief system who work with each other to get right to the heart of Christ’s message without stopping at any denominational door to get approved by any bishop in order to express charity.
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Posted Saturday, February 02, 2008 8:42 PM By John L. Sillasen
Christ is the hope of the world. The world's hope will pass away, but Christ, who is charity, will not pass away.
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Posted Tuesday, February 05, 2008 3:11 PM By Gaysolomon
Hmmmm....I wonder how Chaput would like it if Catholics were denyed employment in the public or private sectors because of their religion. If he can condone discrimination against LGBT workers, how can he object to discrimination against Catholic workers? Being Catholic is a choice. According to many of Chaput's supporters, being LGBT is also a choice. Sauce for the goose is good for the gander.
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Posted Tuesday, February 05, 2008 3:12 PM By Gaysolomon
Hmmmm....I wonder how Chaput would like it if Catholics were denyed employment in the public or private sectors because of their religion. If he can condone discrimination against LGBT workers, how can he object to discrimination against Catholic workers? Being Catholic is a choice. According to many of Chaput's supporters, being LGBT is also a choice. Sauce for the goose is good for the gander.
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Posted Tuesday, February 05, 2008 4:58 PM By John L. Sillasen
Because, Gaysolomon, it's not your idea of what is fair that counts, but God's.
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Posted Wednesday, February 06, 2008 10:44 PM By Anita S
Defense of perversion on a Catholic website. How far we have come. I wish they would go back in the closet and pray for forgiveness instead of trying to ruin our Church. Homosexuality is a sin and just because a lot of people accept it doesn't change that. Chaput is only doing what his faith demands. He knows right from wrong, unlike so many today.
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