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A coup, Episcopal style

Church governance dispute leads to seizure of Church property


The dispute between the Episcopal Diocese of San Joaquin and the Anglican Diocese of San Joaquin has become a range war. Bishop Jerry Lamb of the Fresno-based Episcopal diocese has seized an Anglican mission church in Taft (in Kern County, south of Bakersfield) and dismissed the priest-in-charge.

Last December, then-Episcopal Bishop John-David Schofield, along with a large majority of both lay representatives and clergy of the San Joaquin diocese, voted to leave the U.S. Episcopal Church and join a South American Anglican jurisdiction on account of the Episcopal Church’s toleration and promotion of homosexuality and other issues which, says the Fresno-based diocese, depart from biblical orthodoxy. Schofield’s diocese now calls itself Anglican.

According the Anglican San Joaquin diocese’s web site, Schofield allowed individuals and parishes that wanted to remain with the Episcopal Church to do so and to keep all their real and personal property.

The Episcopal House of Bishops, meeting in Texas on March 12, voted to depose Schofield from ordained ministry. Subsequently, the parishes and individuals that opted to remain with the Episcopal Church formed the Episcopal Diocese of San Joaquin and approved the Right Rev. Jerry Lamb as their provisional bishop. In April, the Episcopal diocese filed a lawsuit against Schofield in Fresno County Superior Court to reclaim the possessions and real property, including the diocesan chancery office, still in possession of the Anglican diocese.

According to the Anglican San Joaquin diocese, in March, St. Andrew’s Mission in Taft was one of the churches to sign new by-laws declaring itself Anglican. But, in late May, 11 of the mission’s members held a reportedly unpublicized meeting with an representative of Lamb’s, and a majority of those present (9-2) voted to join the Episcopal diocese. The mission’s junior warden said he did not know of the meeting until one hour before it occurred. After the meeting, both the junior warden and the mission’s treasurer resigned.

Many of the mission’s members did not know the meeting was taking place, according to the Anglican diocese’s web site. Lamb did not follow established protocols, said the release, and “only those who could be counted upon for affirmation were notified of the meeting and called upon to vote accordingly.” In 2007, the mission averaged 18 in attendance on Sundays, said the release.

According to the Episcopal diocese, Lamb received a statement from 25 of St. Andrew's "pledging members," saying they wished to remain part of the Episcopal diocese.

On June 1, Lamb dismissed St. Andrew’s priest-in-charge and, on June 2, the locks on the church building were changed, “preventing Anglican members from entering freely as they had been able to before,” according to the Anglican diocese. The Episcopal diocese says the locks were changed because the Anglican vicar had said he would "rent the building to another congregation."

Earlier this month, the Episcopal diocese reported that Lamb has received an invitation from the archbishop of Canterbury to attend the Lambeth Conference, the meeting of worldwide Anglicanism in London in July. The invitation affirms, said the Episcopal diocese’s web site, “that the Anglican Communion recognizes the Diocese of San Joaquin of the Episcopal Church as the only Anglican Diocese in central California.” But Schofield, who received the same invitation in March, before his deposition, will also be attending the Lambeth Conference, the Rev. Canon Bill Gandenberger, canon to Schofield, told the June 2 Anglican Living Church Newsservice. Gandenberger said he had no knowledge whether Schofield had received further correspondence from Canterbury.


READER COMMENTS

Posted Wednesday, June 18, 2008 5:16 AM By Trey
Seized? Are you kidding me? The members of the parish voted to go back to The Episcopal Church and Bishop Lamb welcomed them like the prodigal son. Could you try to use less inflammatory words to describe the situation?

Posted Wednesday, June 18, 2008 9:13 AM By DM08
makes Catholics grateful for authority, things are just easier with a Pope!

Posted Wednesday, June 18, 2008 10:06 AM By Matthew
Trey, Please note, only 9 out of 25 parishoners voted to return to TEC. Only 11 people were told the meeting was to take place. Neither the priest-in-charge, nor his vestry was invited. By the time these 17 (including the priest) people found out about the meeting, Lamb had secured possession of the building and changed the locks. If this is not a "seizure," then I am at a loss to understand how you might define this word. The Episcopal Church, apparently, cares very little about the Gospel (they are moving closer and closer to becoming a flagrantly "Gnostic Church" every day. But they seem to care a great deal about real estate and tangible assets. We should all be praying for the conversion and the repentance of the leaders of the Episcopal Church. Right now, it looks to me as if the leadership of the Episcopal Church is clearly serving some master other than the Lord. I do not blame the authentic Christians within this diocese for fleeing from such company. The amazing thing is that MORE Episcopalians-- throught the USA-- have not yet fled...

Posted Wednesday, June 18, 2008 10:08 AM By Georgia
Trey: You are a gullible one for sure.

Posted Wednesday, June 18, 2008 6:13 PM By Paul
For those southern and central California Catholics whom would like to learn more about what is going on you are invited to see Mr. Gerry Mattics a fascinating speaker in person. He is going to be speaking on Thursday, June 26 in San Diego. On Friday he'll be in Colton and Saturday in Fullerton. On Sunday he's in Woodland Hills and Monday in San Luis Obispo all day. For SAN DIEGO: When: Thursday, June 26, 10 am - 9 pm Where: Holiday Inn Express Old Town 3900 Old Town Ave, San Diego CA 92110, phone (619) 299-7400 What: Traditional Catholic Conference on Defending the Faith (day), Counterfeit Catholicism Exposed (evening) 10:00 - 11:00 am: Are We Saved "By Faith Alone"? 11:00 - 11:15 am: Q & A 11:15 - 11:30 am: break 11:30 - 12:30 pm: "Scripture Alone" Scriptural? 12:30 - 12:45 pm: Q & A 12:45 - 1:45 pm: lunch break 1:45 - 2:45 pm: Peter, Prime Minister of Christ's Kingdom: A Biblical Defense of the Papacy 2:45 - 3:00 pm: Q & A 3:00 - 3:15 pm: 1st afternoon break 3:15 - 4:15: Every King Has A Queen Mother: A Biblical Defense of Catholic Teaching about the Blessed Virgin Mary 4:15 - 4:30 pm: Q & A 4:30 - 4:45 pm: 2nd afternoon break 4:45 - 5:45 pm: Unless You Eat My Flesh and Drink My Blood: A Biblical Defense of Catholic Teaching on the Eucharist 5:45 - 6:00 pm: Q & A 6:00 - 7:30 pm: dinner break 7:30 - 8:45 pm: Counterfeit Catholicism: Why Vatican II, the New Mass, and Benedict XVI Are Not What They Claim to Be 8:45 pm: Q & A (leave when you wish) More info at wwwgerrymataticsorg May God bless us all, we need His help!

Posted Wednesday, June 18, 2008 6:45 PM By bedwere
Mattics is NOT Catholic!

Posted Wednesday, June 18, 2008 9:47 PM By George
Mattatics is too Catholic!

Posted Wednesday, June 18, 2008 10:44 PM By Kenneth M. Fisher
Sad to say, but Mr. Matatics now admits that he is a sedevecantist! God bless, yours in Their Hearts, Kenneth M. Fisher, Founder & Chairman Concerned Roman Catholics of America, Inc. www.crcoa.com

Posted Wednesday, June 18, 2008 10:46 PM By SNoel
History coming back to bite them. Reminds me of that time when the protestants in England (The Anglicans) took over everything that was owned by the Catholic Church in England, Scotland, and Ireland and forced the people to convert or die.

Posted Thursday, June 19, 2008 8:00 AM By Fr. M.P.
bedwere is correct. BTW, his name is Gerry Matatics. On his homepage today, Matatics says this: "a) Ratzinger was and is an unrepentant Modernist before, during, and since Vatican II (albeit a cleverly disguised Modernist, with a slick veneer of "traditionalism" about him), and that b) since heresy automatically excommunicates one from the Catholic Church, Ratzinger obviously cannot be the head of a Church of which he is not even a member." So Paul, why are you following this schismatic thinking?

Posted Thursday, June 19, 2008 8:33 AM By Mary
For Karl Keating's confirmation as to why Gerry Matatics does not submit to the doctrine of the Catholic faith, see Mr. Keating's post of January 27, 2004.

Posted Thursday, June 19, 2008 10:52 AM By Grisha
I once read something that Mataics wrote wherehe argues that he can't be a Sedevecandist because there is no such thing as Sedevacantism. Kind of like the guy holding the BofA bag with the money, with red all over him from the exploding dye pack arguing he can't be a bank robber because there is no such thing as bank robbery

Posted Friday, June 20, 2008 7:13 AM By John Farrell
This is so, so typical of the religious conservative spin on this ongoing story; the group that acts to retain its property is said to be "seizing" it.

Posted Friday, June 20, 2008 3:26 PM By Fr. M.P.
The Protestants, in the time of the reformation, did steal - seize - the Catholic Church properties in large numbers.

Posted Sunday, June 22, 2008 9:35 PM By JRG
Let's be clear. Bishop Schofield appropriated the parish property from The Episcopal Church. The parishioners who wished to remain in The Episcopal Church simply claimed what was theirs according to church canon law. If 25 pledging members signed a petition to Bishop Lamb, then it would appear that a majority of this little congregation has rejected the decision of their bishop's committee. It would be interesting to see how many members of the parish voted on the by-laws changes in March.

Posted Monday, June 23, 2008 3:21 PM By Kenneth M. Fisher
To set matters straight, I recently received a letter from Gerry in which he definitely stated that he is now a "sedevecandist"! I wish it were not true. I know Gerry and like him, but unfortunately it is true. God bless, yours in Their Hearts, Kenneth M. Fisher, Founder & Chairman Concerned Roman Catholics of America, Inc. www.crcoa.com

Posted Wednesday, June 25, 2008 7:50 AM By Grisha
Dear Ken: Do I understand this correctly? . This guy you know and like, Matatics, converted to Catholicism 21 years ago. Instead of integrating himself the usual way joinining his local parish, St. Vincent De Paul Society, teaching CCD, lectoring etc., he instantly becomes some kind of a professional Internet personality and self commissioned lay preacher, telling the world what Catholicism is and isn't. Now he's going to World Youth Day to "expose" Benedict XVI. As my next door neighbor the Rabbi would say "What Chutzpah!" I hear they have an Introduction to Catholicism class at Most Holy Redeemer. Why don't you talk him into taking it, to "straighten out" his bizarre thinking.

Posted Wednesday, June 25, 2008 11:13 PM By Kenneth M. Fisher
No Grisha, You are wrong, at first Gerry was a true Norvus Ordo Catholic, and then he saw all the abuses, and unfortunately as I see it withdrew instead of fighting the good fight. Still he is a very likeable guy, truly you who profess to be so liberal in all your associations would understand that a guy can be wrong and still be very likeable, or can you? God bless, yours in Their Hearts, Kenneth M. Fisher, Founder & Chairman Concerned Roman Catholics of America, Inc. www.crcoa.com

Posted Thursday, June 26, 2008 5:16 AM By Fr. M.P.
Unfortunately scandal causes those with weak faith to leave the Church. Look at the result of the sex scandals. Look at what happened when Jesus announced the Eucharist for the first time (John ch. 6). And many traditionalists have the same problem like Gerry (BTW, I do not know him). And Grisha, you who do not accept Church dogma about women not being priests and promoting the evil of homosexual lifestyles; you who want to tell the Pope and the Magisterium what to do in those matters? What Chutzpah! What "bizarre thinking" (and worse). When are you going to "straighten out"?

Posted Thursday, June 26, 2008 7:31 AM By Grisha
Ken ~ I'm sure George and Laura would make wonderful neighbors. I still think he'll go down as one of the worst presidents we've ever had, but they'd fit right in here on our block in the Richmond District of SF. I'm curious about why - and especially the process through - Mr. Matatics became a Catholic and then, faced with the same terrible information the rest of us did, decided to assume an authority which wasn't his.

Posted Thursday, June 26, 2008 10:12 AM By Grisha
Fr. MP: Real fast cuz I've got to get back to work! 1) I accept that God has said no to women priests. Can God change his mind? That's too big a theological question for me to wrap my mind around right now. Let me say that if, through the magesratrim of the Church He did "change his mind" on the issue I wouldn't go into schism about it. In the meantime we need to get a lot more creative and aggressive about the vocations crisis. I've thrown out some thoughts about how in previous posts and would like to hear yours. 2) I adhere to the teachings per CCC 2357-2359. I think lots of Catholics need to more closely follow the letter and sprit of 2258. 3) If I ever get the opportunity to tell the Pope anything it will be "Thank yopu your Holiness for sending us Archbishop Neiderauer. May my family and I have your blessing?"

Posted Thursday, June 26, 2008 6:32 PM By Brian
Hi , I oppose most of what Ken has to say , but they don't allow my comments. Not sure why. Is this tame enough ?

Posted Thursday, June 26, 2008 9:06 PM By Anne T.
Grisha, I think there will be more priests coming over from the Epicopalians who are sick of women priests and bishops and disgusted with practicing homosexual priests and bishops. Also, there are many fine young men being educated by such orders as The Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter. Some of the young priests from the latter give sermons that put some older Novus Ordo priests to shame as far as the content and orthodoxy. I think the Catholic Church has a bright future in its young, and also in older more orthodox men. Deo gratias!

Posted Friday, June 27, 2008 3:39 AM By Brian
I heard of a study on people in the U.S. changing their religion. The biggest loser was the Catholic church. I left years ago and I love the Epicopal Church the woman priest is just great. I did not leave becuase I was weak . I left because as an alter boy in the 60's I later learned the church viewed me as acceptible collateral damage in their attempt to hide molesters. Nothing happened to me personally but that was not due to any effort on the churches part. When I did have my daughter baptized I was lectured by the priest about not going to church. A few years later that priest was found to be molesting little boys. What arrogance. Cardinal Law came along and continued to hide molesters and move them so they ended up raping again. The Cardinal was kicked out of Boston and then rewarded by John Paul with a great job. The new Pope could on undo that but has not. No , I'm not weak. I'm disgusted. My pal Ken here wants to set the rules for others. He was really upset with the Cardinal Law appointment he said , but really could not do anything. He can tells others how to live , but his own church ? Well , he is too busy to fight that fight.

Posted Friday, June 27, 2008 8:12 AM By Fr. M.P.
Grisha, God has spoken dogmatically on women priests. It will never happen in His true Church. You MUST accept that or you are in heresy. Period. Pope JP2 said "end of discussion!" It's only hard to understand for dissenters. In other false "churches" we have seen that happen, but those aren't even officially churches. See Dominus Iesus #17 "On the other hand, the ecclesial communities which have not preserved the valid Episcopate and the genuine and integral substance of the Eucharistic mystery, are not Churches in the proper sense;" Neither will God change His Mind on the evils of homosexual behavior. It is ingrained in our very nature, which is then enlightened by faith. Your postings over the few months that I have been here show that you do not adhere to the teachings by your suggestions of women priests as a so-called "solution" to the vocations crisis. I already told you the solution - Catholics must LIVE the faith fully, and not be heretical cafeteria eaters. Lack of holy priests is part of the punishment of unfaithfulness. There is no vocations crisis where there is true faithfulness. And you even promoted giving children for adoption to homosexual joinages. What abuse! I follow CCC 2357-2359. Homosexuals are called to chastity. Not so-called "marriage", not adoptions, not making the laws to enshrine sin. What is your version of following 2357 to 2359?

Posted Friday, June 27, 2008 8:58 AM By Grisha
Anne T. : The Episcopalian priests who "lateral transfer" often bring along wives and children. We can absorb a few but, right now at least, we arn't set up for a large number of priests with families.

Posted Friday, June 27, 2008 9:39 AM By Anne T.
I understand, Grisha, but they will make excellent parishioners, I believe.

Posted Monday, February 02, 2009 11:42 AM By Valleri
After having lived within the Diocese of San Joaquin for most of my life until 1995, I'm horrified by what I've seen during visits home. Further, I've remained in contact with friends through emails and phone calls. Neither the church in which I or my children were baptized and confirmed are Episcopal Churches any longer. The central valley has always been more conservative than most of the rest of California, granted, but to have it come to this present situation is heart breaking. There is a very big issue at play here and his name is John-David Schofield. The old bishop from my childhood, Sumner Walters, must be spinning in his grave! What a mess.

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