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“Largest grass-roots campaign in California history”

San Diego minister seeks to unite churches in prayer and fasting as part of marriage amendment campaign, but so far few Catholic parishes have signed up


Pastor Jim Garlow of the 2,500-member Skyline Church in San Diego has a plan to propel a ballot initiative to protect traditional marriage to victory in November. Garlow’s plan includes not only networking with other churches in California, but prayer and fasting as well.

The goal of Garlow’s campaign, he told the June 26 Los Angeles Times, "is to create a climate, a culture of fasting and praying for our state." His plan includes calling a 40-day fasting period leading up to the November election, accompanied by 100 days of prayer. Garlow says he wants to fill Qualcomm Stadium in San Diego and other large venues throughout the state on the weekend before the election with people praying for the success of the marriage initiative.

The initiative, Proposition 8, would amend the state constitution “to provide that only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California.”

On June 25, Garlow had a conference call meeting with more than 1,000 ministers from across the state to discuss strategy and to consider Garlow’s proposal for prayer and fasting. Lawyers and political consultants also participated. Initiative organizers say that the ministers involved in the conference call lead congregations that total more than 1 million people. A political analyst, Tony Quinn, told the Times that the pastors’ involvement could be significant. "This… could bring people to the polls that would not otherwise vote,” he said. “The churches can do that."

But opponents of the proposed amendment downplayed Garlow’s efforts. "There are certainly thousands of people of faith who are supportive of the freedom to marry," Kerry Chaplin, organizing director for California Faith for Equality, told the Times. CFE is a coalition representing more than 2,000 faith leaders and congregations that support same-sex marriage.

Proposition 22, the 2000 ballot initiative defining marriage as a union between a man and a woman, included some participation from religious leaders – particularly Catholics and Mormons. Garlow’s campaign, however, is thus far largely Evangelical, as is born out by a list of venues, found on the Marriage Protection Act web site, for the June 25 strategy meeting. Of the 94 churches listed, only three are neither Protestant nor Evangelical. They are St. Mary Catholic Church in Escondido (Fr. Rich Perozich, pastor), St. Maria Coptic Orthodox Church in Irvine (Fr. Bishop Kamel, pastor), and St. Andrew Orthodox Christian Church in Riverside (the Very Rev. Josiah Trenham, pastor.)

But the fight for the marriage initiative excludes no one. "We are working with all the churches who are willing to work with us," Frank Schubert, the initiative’s campaign manager, told the Times. "It's woven together to form what we hope will be the largest grass-roots campaign in California history."


READER COMMENTS

Posted Tuesday, July 01, 2008 5:41 AM By Fr. M.P.
Fasting, one of those forgotten penitential practices. Penance today is one of those unpopular things in this age of self indulgence. Every Catholic should be fasting regularly, like once a week in this era of apostasy. A strict fast is having only bread and water. Certain devils can only be cast out by prayer and fasting.

Posted Tuesday, July 01, 2008 9:08 AM By Dark Knight
The Rev. Mr. Garlow is reinventing the wheel. The reason his efforts aren't bearing fruit is because any number of Catholic groups, for example Stand With Children, are trying to reach out to other faiths.

Posted Tuesday, July 01, 2008 9:34 AM By John M
God bless you Pastor Garlow.Prayer is the answer. This is a spiritual battle of gigantic proportions."Not by power,not by might, but by my Spirit says the Lord" Please be prepared. This will pit one side of the Church against the other.We are not fighting against flesh,but the evil one who Jesus warned us about.

Posted Tuesday, July 01, 2008 9:44 AM By Barbara
God bless Pastor Garlow. He is doing what Catholic churches would have done before they were Vatican II-ized.

Posted Tuesday, July 01, 2008 9:54 AM By betty
I think that's great news. After reading that I decided to pray and fast for my son's return to the Catholic faith. My son calls himself an atheist.

Posted Tuesday, July 01, 2008 10:10 AM By William
The * pastor* is part of a heretical sect. Why should any Catholics join in? According to past Popes a person like this will find it very difficult to attain Heaven, unless before he dies, he is joined to the true Church, The Holy Roman Catholic Church.

Posted Tuesday, July 01, 2008 10:24 AM By Weeorphan
Heretical sect or not, this pastor is trying to do what our so-called orthodox priests are too cowardly to do, for fear of offending the pews and losing attendance money. Our Catholic Church is trying to serve two masters, both Mammon and God, which is impossible.

Posted Tuesday, July 01, 2008 11:31 AM By Kenneth M. Fisher
Fr. M.P. Is it ok to put some spread on the bread such as Oleo, Jam, etc. etc.? God bless, yours in Their Hearts, Kenneth M. Fisher, Founder & Chairman Concerned Roman Catholics of America, Inc. www.crcoa.com

Posted Tuesday, July 01, 2008 12:27 PM By Pax Christi
Well said, Weeorphan. You echoed my thoughts after reading William's. It indeed is a shame that non-Catholic Christians are acting more like Catholics than Catholics themselves when it comes to engaging in spiritual warfare. The shepherds not named Fr. John Corapi often have no guts to get out onto the front lines. My parish, St. Philip in Bakersfield, can be pitiful at times in responding to the scourges of society, pretending all is well and there's no urgent need to put our faith to work in the political sphere. Well, guess what? The Caesars have hijacked what belongs to God right under their noses. As usual we'll have to do the fasting and praying ourselves while the shepherds stand aside with the wool over their eyes.

Posted Tuesday, July 01, 2008 1:15 PM By William
Today being the feastday of St Serra, one of the chief installers of Catholicism in California, I shall instead begin a novena to Fr Serra, for the restoration of the Catholic faith here. This is better than joining in prayer with a member of a heretical sect. Will anybody join me in this 9 day novena? Fr is a saint you know. I think his intercession would be much more powerful with Our Lord.

Posted Tuesday, July 01, 2008 1:48 PM By William
Sorry, he's Blessed, not a saint-yet.

Posted Tuesday, July 01, 2008 2:01 PM By Pax Christi
I'll join you, William. The governor says he'll pray 20 rosaries a day for health care reform in California, so this is the least I could do, to pray for the reform of our souls through the intercession of St. Junipero. California definitely needs it and has far more to worry about than health care reform at this time.

Posted Tuesday, July 01, 2008 2:08 PM By Mary Ann, SingingMum
I do like the idea of a novena to Fr. Serra and will join you, William. I also think that this pastor is courageous and, while he may hold to heretical doctrine, I believe we can and must join prayer efforts with all those who profess faith in Christ. While it is important to retain your Catholic identity, to know and love the Church of Christ and to pray with others who believe in Him are not mutually exclusive. The blunt fact is, we need to join for sheer impact. Catholic leadership (in general) is not stepping up to the plate when it comes to this issue. God bless and strengthen faithful Catholics who are! God bless this pastor- and may his eyes be opened to the fullness of Truth through encounters with ardent Catholics.

Posted Tuesday, July 01, 2008 2:14 PM By Mary Ann, SingingMum
Another idea- call your pastor or associate and ASK that your parish be involved in this. And offer to help. I just saw Fr. Rich Perozich of St. Mary's in Escondido was on board- call him with your support, especially if you're in the San Diego diocse! He is known to be very orthodox and ministered for several years to those with attraction to the same sex through the group Courage. He's definitely part of the 'priests with guts' group that should gain our respect and every means of support.

Posted Tuesday, July 01, 2008 2:20 PM By Fr. M.P.
Dear Kenneth, a strict fast should be strict. Bread and water only - no add-ons. There are lesser fasts too, like 1/2 day, if one needs to first build up the strength to later do the strict fasts.

Posted Tuesday, July 01, 2008 2:35 PM By Rachel
Well, may Pastor Garlow go with God. Bless him for not rolling over and playing dead.

Posted Tuesday, July 01, 2008 5:37 PM By Margie
Pastor Jim Garlow has heard the call of the Holy Spirit calling us to empty ourselves, to pour ourselves out as a libation or sacrifice for the good of others. After returning from Medjugorje recently, I, too hear the call of the Bride of the Spirit. She asks us to fast twice a week on bread and water, specifically on Wednesdays and Fridays. This is nothing new. This is nothing radical. The early Christians fasted. The saints fasted. We are called to fast so that we may end wars(the war on marriage and the family) and to bring peace to our troubled world. Do you want to drive the demons from California? Do you want to drive out the demons that threaten our families, our peace? Begin to fast and watch the transformation! Does fasting transform a nation? a people? a church? Yes.

Posted Tuesday, July 01, 2008 6:59 PM By Leonard
Weeorphan is right. I have heard more than one parish priest express his concern about the money being more important than a prolife homily. A prolife homily is not popular because it might offend the parishioners who give the most money. We must pray and fast. Amen!!!

Posted Tuesday, July 01, 2008 8:08 PM By Anne T.
Padre Magin Catala is another holy friar that Catholics can ask to interceed before the throne of God concerning the situations in California. There is a lot of information about him online.

Posted Tuesday, July 01, 2008 11:10 PM By Margie
Matthew 6: 16-18 St. Augustine(+430) stated, "Suppose you were going to ride a horse, and it looked as if it might throw you with its friskiness, wouldn't you make sure of having a safe journey, by cutting the rations of the unruly beast, and taming it with hunger, since you couldn't curb it with the reins? My flesh is my mount. On my journey to Jerusalem it frequently runs away with me, and tries to make me lose my way, and my way is Christ; so as it plays up like that, shouldn't I restrain it with fasting?" You must not regard fasting as an unimportant or superfluous matter...Magnificat p258 June 2008

Posted Wednesday, July 02, 2008 12:20 AM By John L. Sillasen
Severe fasting needs to be monitored for health and medical condition. By severe fasting, I mean that one's age has something to do with it, along with the environment ...hot, humid, arid, cold, moderate. Water only is an interesting fast. Three days is tough, but I'm told that after that the hunger pangs subside and it becomes easier. I do not even call a half day a fast. One needs to be in touch with the purpose, ie the function of the fast. There are ways other than food deprivation to fast, such as fasting from sufficient warmth. People who are very "physical" in their daily routine exertions would perhaps want to choose some other fast than of food. If the purpose of the fast is to give a sign to a non-believer, than a severe on might be in order; but for moving oneself towards God, then the little fasts might be the ticket. There, then, are levels of fasting, from the mundane up to the rare fasts divinely ordered, which I don't think the world has been treated to for a long long time.

Posted Wednesday, July 02, 2008 9:09 AM By Anne T.
I once fasted for three days on nothing but milk. It is true, John, that after the third day one no longer wants to eat. One of my doctors years later told me not to do that again. It is best to check with one's doctor about such severe fastings before doing them.

Posted Wednesday, July 02, 2008 10:41 AM By John L. Sillasen
Doctors jobs are to say no, do not do anything, prescribe pills, and to perform surgery ... unless, of course, you find one who rebels against the domination of the insurance companies and courts, and actually provides sound medical advice unencumbered by legal issues. A person has two choices: 1. seek and maintain the optimum "couch potato" condition, or 2. subject oneself along the lines of St Paul. In other words, who is in charge, the person or their body?

Posted Wednesday, July 02, 2008 1:27 PM By John L. Sillasen
Finally I can point out a view of St Augustine which is not well informed. Seems that anyone who follows the philosophical view of Aristotle on animals gets tossed into a puddle. As for animals, I'd put my lot with St Francis. Animals coordinate their efforts very well with humans, when the humans treat them like animals instead of like robots. Anybody ever looked at a "horse whisperer" video, or seen one of these animal husbandry wizards engage the animals? It is not magic, but simply respect for what God has created for our benefit. There is not to my knowledge any ex cathedra pronouncemet dogmatizing this Aristotelian/Augustinian/Thomist view of animals ... there is no divinely revealed concurrence of their positions, and rather I find Scriptural evidence to contradict that position. Moreover, what I find is the natural law which that position appears to violate. St Thomas was also in error concerning his position on ensoulment of the unborn, which position never made it into the Magisterium. What I find is a kind of "urbanization" of Catholicism which puts down the nature created by God. What with the advent of the "green" movement and its vain claim to be in charge of nature, it is obvious that the Church needs to step up to the plate and deal with nature rather than relegate it to the charge of the impious anti-Christian forces. There once was a need to urbanize and the Church stepped up to this need; but, today, the need is the other way around, and the Church is obligated to go to bat on it. This argument is not to be easily found in reference books ... it will have to be engaged real time. It calls for the radical nature of the Church to rise ... a call that goes beyond the environment and animals, a call called for by our late Pope John Paul II ... he spoke earnestly about the root of Church philosophy being in the radical nature of Jesus ... so get radical, throw your tv sets into the trash and find out what communications is really about.

Posted Wednesday, July 02, 2008 4:55 PM By Anne T.
John Sillenson, fasting is different for men and women. I think my doctor told me not to do severe fasting because I was still in my child bearing years. Child bearing women need to be more careful than men or non-child bearing women. In other words, we must use common sense and not fast so severely that we harm our own health or that of an unborn child. Bread and water once or twice a week, I think, would be all right for most people as long as they eat healthy the rest of the time. Others could fast more severly under a doctor's supervision. Also, "fasting" from other things, such as movies, buying an item and certain kinds of food or drink, is also an excellent idea.

Posted Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:06 PM By Anne T.
As you all know, I sure did misspell "severely" in my last e-mail. I saw it as I "tracked back". When I am in a hurry, I am Typo Annie.

Posted Wednesday, July 02, 2008 9:19 PM By John L. Sillasen
What is this insatiable reliance on doctors all about? Doctors are for people who are afflicted. Afflicted people should not be fasting anyway. If someone does not know if they suffer an affliction, then of course they should get a check up. But if someone is subject to damage due to fasting, then obviously they should not do it. The point of fasting is prayer, as a simple means to get the mind off of bodily needs for a while. It is not so that God can hear the prayer more clearly; the fasting is for the one who is praying. Someone on a fast who is also tending to their normal daily chores and obligations is wasting their time with it. It is a type of solitude ... if the fasting one has to check with the doctor every two hours, then there is no point to the fast. Doctors help regulate the body; fasting takes one away from these needs for a day or several days ... see the problem? The very very mild fasting regs for fridays serve to move the soul towards prayer ... how much prayer do you seek to do? Also the fish fast has the additional quality of tying in symbolically with persecuted Christians, and with evangelism, not to mention the papal primacy.

Posted Thursday, July 03, 2008 12:44 PM By Anne T.
I was not suggesting that one check in every hour with a doctor, just that one knows whether one's physical condition can withstand the fype of fasting one chooses.

Posted Thursday, July 03, 2008 2:02 PM By John L. Sillasen
I know; I've been trying to drag out the topic because I think it's important.

Posted Thursday, July 03, 2008 10:43 PM By Anne T.
It is important, John Sillasen, and I am going to give something up til November. Never-the-less, Our Lord says that we should not sound a trumpet before us too much when we fast.

Posted Thursday, July 03, 2008 11:17 PM By Anne T.
I accidentally sent out that last e-mail too soon. I did not mean that we cannot discuss having others fast or abstain at the same time Pastor Garlow is, just that after we make our decision we should fast or abstain privately and not make a show of it.

Posted Sunday, July 06, 2008 9:46 PM By John L. Sillasen
Anne T., you have done me a great favor by persisting in the thread on fasting. I pride myself ... to the extent of vanity ... on such things. Well, I researched a few hours today and discovered some of my physical complaints tie in directly with the fact that I live in a kind of nutritional fast. I eat about half what I ought to eat. So, I'm now ending my fast ... not one by intent, I don't think, but by neglect or boredom.

Posted Monday, July 07, 2008 4:49 PM By Anne T.
I take your word for it, John Sillasen that you are doing the right thing. I have always loved St. Paul's philosophy, "Moderation in all things." I think he got it from the Old Testament. Or as C.K. Chesterton put it, "Let us thank God for beer and wine by not drinking too much of them." I am a little overweight now, so fasting from some things I really do not need for a good cause definitely cannot hurt me.

Posted Monday, July 07, 2008 6:27 PM By John L. Sillasen
In St Paul's day, people all got plenty of aerobic exercise, unlike today. Also, the Jews especially farmed with instructions from God for maintaining soil nutrition and not allowing it to deplete. Their meat animals grazed on good pastures which also would not have been depleted of nutrients. One modern day comparison I noticed recently is wild game ... pound for pound there is more to it if it has fed on areas not depleted by agriculture or over grazed. A few years ago I got into a "frenzy" by putting my two Lab puppies on a "raw bones" diet ... off the kibble and nothing but raw bones* ... their already white teeth got extremely white in three days ... and it is not from the friction of the bones being chewed. It happens from the nutrition in the bones. This concept is difficult for most people to get a grip on ... but once in a while I run into somebody who actually knows from experience. *(and vege pulp with some natural additives, as dogs are not carnivours like cats, but omnivours like people and bears).

Posted Tuesday, July 08, 2008 7:47 AM By Chino Blanco
There was a period in the history of Christianity when, if a man had no marked gifts of intellect or character, the way to attract attention was to climb to the top of a column and sit there until a cluster of the faithful gathered to treat him as an oracle ...

Posted Thursday, July 10, 2008 11:29 PM By A
Oh! Chino, we still have those. They are called tree-sitting environmentalists now days.

Posted Friday, July 11, 2008 12:34 PM By A
I meant no offense to St. Simon Stylite, but I assume the privious poster did.

Posted Tuesday, July 22, 2008 6:48 PM By John Williams
The more I think about our current economic system the more I understand it is doomed to fail due to usury (the real definition is any lending with interest). When you really consider money you come to the conclusion that it's value is not exactly our faith in it that gives it value but the faith that it can obe exchanged for a product. A product we as a society make. The banks do not make the products so why are they getting a percentage of every single product we make and ever single service we provide. If the usury was removed from banks we would all get that extra percentage for the work we do the bank does not produce these goods why are we paying them for something we make. Another way to put this is that we produce 10 billion dollars worth of products and the bank buys it of us for 5% less than it is worth and this happens for everything we make. Then within that system we have 10 billion dollars worth of goods but only 9.5 million dollars worth of purchasing power to buy it back from the bank so we have to either borrow 500 million or lay people off because we are overproducing. The banks walk away with 5% of everything we make though. All the imbalances inflation/deflation unemployment due to overproduction are due to usury and would all disappear if usury was removed. These imbalances are easily hidden when our overproduction is sold to another country which gives us the difference to pay for 500 million interest. But causes that country to suffer since they are paying our interest and going deeper into debt themselves until they live like all 3rd world citizens do. This is also the reason why we have to continually work longer hours every year for the same quality of life. There is a lot of resistance to this idea because it is hard to believe we are being used so badly but we are. There is also alot of circular logic to try and deny these facts because they are hard to accept. But it basically comes down to this: Our planet is a closed system like an island. Now if I were on an island and lent someone a $100 and charged him %5 interest at the end of the year he would not have enough money to pay me back. Some people say but my

Posted Tuesday, July 22, 2008 9:43 PM By John Williams
cont: property would be worth more but the banks usury is always above the average inflation rate. So say inflation was %2 I could refinance at $102 but I would still owe $105. I would have to borrow the difference and pay compounded interest on it forever. This is one of the most important problems on our entire planet this is not just a little bit of money it compounds upon itself forever. If you will take the time to understand what I am saying here you will realize how important this is and I implore you to let people know. The only way we will ever stop all the suffering that is caused by this is by spreading the word. This is also the no.1 cause of wars as we try to balance our deficit and pay the interest.

Posted Wednesday, July 23, 2008 7:18 AM By Mary
Amen, John. Last night I came upon the most fascinating and truly Catholic organization focusing on the economic malaise and its sources: www.michaeljournal.org. What a wonderful resource!

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