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GSAs: not as innocent as they may seem

Gay Straight Alliance promotes sex-toy workshop for youth.


The Gay Straight Alliance, which has clubs for homosexual and lesbian students on college, high school, and, now middle school campuses, this month promoted a “Pleasure Physiology and Sex Toys” workshop in its internet publication, GSA Network News.

The workshop, hosted by the San Francisco-based Center for Sex and Culture, was scheduled for June 14 at the Pacific Center in Berkeley. The Center, said the News, “will encourage your personal sexual exploration in this fun, informative workshop. Join us for a discussion on pleasure physiology and sexual response, and learn how to choose and use sex toys safely.”

The workshop, the News, “is for youth 14 and over,” but those “under 18 need permission from a parent/guardian to attend.” Further, “this event is also free free free @ the Pacific Center,” said the News, “so come on down and invite a friend won't cha.”

The Center for Sex and Culture says its mission is “to provide non-judgmental, sex-positive sexuality education and support to diverse populations.” The Center says it is “not the only organization trying to effect sex-positive cultural change,” but, unlike other organizations that do “sexuality education,” the Center wants “to make ourselves available to the widest range of people we can, with classes that run the gamut from informational to experiential.”

One of the Center’s founders, Dr. Carol Queen, is “a writer and cultural sexologist.” A “noted essayist,” her work “has appeared in such publications as Male Lust, Whores and Other Feminists, The Erotic Impulse, Bisexual Politics: Theories, Queries and Visions, Madonnarama, and Women of the Light: The New Sacred Healer,” says the Center’s web site. Queen has written erotic stories and an erotic novel, The Leather Daddy and the Femme. Her essay collection, Real Nude Girl: Chronicles of Sex-Positive Culture, “is used in Women’s Studies, Queer Studies, and Cultural Studies classes in universities across America.”

The Center offers workshops besides “Sex Toys.” The list includes workshops on masturbation, anal sexuality, gay sexuality, porn, and “sex club etiquette.”


READER COMMENTS

Posted Monday, June 25, 2007 6:03 AM By stlouisix
To say that this is perversely sick is the mother of all understatements. These creeps need to be summarily charged with the sexual abuse of our children, and, as such, spend a considerable amount of their remaining lives behind bars. They are being allowed to commit moral murder by being given forums in our schools for the recruitmentof future generations of our youth to selfishly make them comfortable with their vices. There is considerable evidence of a direct correlation between pedophilia and homosexuality. Don't let the pro-sodomite liars con you to the contrary. That fact alone should be a red flag to our schools to report the GSA perverts to the authorities. A study of 457 male sex offenders against children in Journal of Sex and Marital Therapy found that "approximately one-third of these sexual offenders directed their sexual activity against males." Although heterosexuals outnumber homosexuals by a ratio of at least 20 to 1, homosexual pedophiles commit about one-third of the total number of child sex offenses. David Thorstad is a homosexual activist and historian of the gay rights movement. He is a former president of New York's Gay Activists Alliance (GAA), a prototype activist group founded in December 1969. The GAA at its inception opposed age of consent laws, which prohibited adults from having sex with children. Thorstad is also a pedophile and founding member of the North American Man Boy Love Association (NAMBLA). Thorstad argues that there is a natural and undeniable connection between homosexuality and pedophilia. He expresses bitterness that the gay rights movement has, in his view, abandoned pedophilia. Thorstad writes: "Boy-lovers were involved in the gay movement from the beginning, and their presence was tolerated. Gay youth groups encouraged adults to attend their dances. . . . There was a mood of tolerance, even joy at discovering the myriad of lifestyles within the gay and lesbian subculture."

Posted Monday, June 25, 2007 8:09 AM By Laurette Elsberry
We need to provide a millstone for the neck of Dr. Carol Queen (?). Wouldn't you think that the promotion of sex for children as young as 14 would be a crime? Nope, it is part of modern education. I suggest that every reader look up www.gsanetwork.org and click on GSA Directory to locate the GSAs in their local city schools. It is frightening!

Posted Monday, June 25, 2007 8:27 AM By Barbara
Nothing that this world offers is very rarely if ever truly free free free. There is always an unforseen price to pay pay pay somewhere down the road. After reading this story it really does give a whole new meaning to Toys R Us.

Posted Monday, June 25, 2007 12:04 PM By Lois
You are right Laurette. I think you are definately on to something when you suggest providing a millstone, especially to all those instructors in these workshops and all educators right across America taking part in this type of instruction or workshops. Planning for the future is always prudent and wise.

Posted Monday, June 25, 2007 3:24 PM By Jay
I sincerely hope that none of you have gay children. My mother is Polish Catholic and when I came out (by the way, I am a woman) she never brought religion into it. Why? Because she's smart enough to know that sexuality has nothing to do with religion. Just like pedophilia has nothing to do with homosexuality and sex toys have nothing to do with being gay. Are you threatening Carol Queen and her organization because they are allowing a venue for young people to educate themselves about sex toys? Does that make sense to you? Are sex toys a sin? What if a young person wants to obstain from sex with others and wants to use a sex toy instead? You still aren't happy. Please take some time to educate yourselves about sexuality, tolerance, love and acceptance. I grew up Catholic, and luckily my parents were loving and accepting. Many gay kids try to kill themselves, I was lucky. Good luck to you all. I hope you find a better cause (homelessness, poverty, AIDS, war) to rant against.

Posted Monday, June 25, 2007 5:55 PM By Abby Stevenson
Jay -- since when is to disagree with you to threaten you, or anyone else? Is it a threat to report what someone is doing? If so, the death of free speech is at hand. Good luck to you in getting a clearer grasp of what it means to say "marketplace of ideas." Or do you think the only ideas in the market should be your own? As far as educating ourselves about sexuality, we have been well educated by the most trustworthy source available -- the Catholic Chuch, instituted by Christ. To practice homosexuality is contrary to the nature of the human person. To be a homosexual is not sinful of itself, as long as the homosexual is able to control his/her baser instincts.

Posted Monday, June 25, 2007 8:50 PM By Mike
Is the universe of perverted sexual behavor so saturated with sickness and silliness that the only new thing the homosexualist movement can think of is to con our children into joining them by promoting a new toy? Toys are for kids, not for well adjusted normal adults. GSA: grow up, get rid of the toys, and keep your hands out of our children's pants. You should be in jail for doing these things.

Posted Monday, June 25, 2007 8:56 PM By Matityahu
Ill get right to the main point of this article, When I adopt children, and I will someday, I would not allow him or her to be educated sexually by any student organization either. GSA or anywhere. It's up to parents to discuss sex properly on their terms. I am 20 and romantically attracted to men who are in their mid 20s. I am not, have never, and never will be attracted to women or children of either gender or age. That is my nature and the nature of many millions of other humans and billions of creatures, many species of which are well documented to have homosexual tendencies like ferrets, rams, and Japanese macaques. We are not going away. Neither do we increase or multiply. We are a small percentage of people across all cultures and religions. We do not educate anybody to become gay despite beliefs to the contrary. It is impossible to change sexual orientation even if it were a goal! People are either gay, bisexual, or straight it doesnt change according to every major unaffiliated organization that studies the mind. They all say homosexuality is not wrong or perverted and cannot change. The biggest, most expensive, and time consuming goal of the gay community is to combat hate and misrepresentation. It's NOT too much to ask for that. On a tangent, NAMBLA and other pedophilia organizations are a definitely perverse, disgusting, and should be illegal. They are duly shunned in the gay community and I was warned about them at my GSA when I was a teen in high school.

Posted Monday, June 25, 2007 9:12 PM By Diego
Evidently Jay ignores 2,000 years of perennial Catholic teaching against masturbation/onanism. Homelessness and poverty, however miserable in this life, do not lead to eternal damnation. AIDS is a preventable disease...and certainly plenty of practicing Catholics oppose "the sin that cries to Heaven for vengeance" AND oppose the Zionist genocide/war.

Posted Monday, June 25, 2007 9:37 PM By Edgar A Suter MD
God did not "make them that way." Homosexuality is a chosen behavior, a disease that would still be identified as such if the A.P.A. had not let themselves be bullied by violence and threats, the same kind of intimidation and violence that pervades the homosexual deathstyle. Worse, while PEDOPHILIA AND HOMOSEXUALITY are not exactly the same, there is enormous OVERLAP. Despite homosexual propaganda to the contrary, about one-third of adult homosexuals engage in sex with minors, putting teens and children at risk from their sick predatory practices. …LIKE GIVING SEX TOYS TO SCHOOLKIDS. Sadly, when sodomites express their "pride" that "most child abusers are heterosexual," they neglect to mention that the 1% of the population that is homosexual perpetrates ALMOST HALF of child sexual abuse. Same-sex Attraction Disorder (S.A.D.) leads to early death of the body and, if unrepented, eternal death of the soul, so there is nothing "gay" about S.A.D. Jay wants to paint a happy face on the sick and deadly (!!!) things that homosexuals choose to do. Despite two decades of education, homosexuals still tend to be promiscuous and to engage in high risk and often anonymous sex practices (including fisting, torture, sodomy, coprophagy, vampirism, "BUG SEEKING," and other paraphilias) that result in the exchange of blood, urine, feces, and semen yielding much higher rates of deadly disease than in the normal population. The medical consequences of acts common among homosexuals and the disproportionately increased rates of violence, drug and alcohol abuse, and psychopathology among homosexuals cause homosexuals to die decades younger than normal people. (see www.narth.com and www.cathmed.org/publications/homosexuality.htm)

Posted Monday, June 25, 2007 10:04 PM By Edgar A Suter MD
Matityahu's assertions about homosexuality are demonstrably false. NARTH and others report high rates of success in reparative therapy of S.A.D. The results of therapy fall into three categories, about 1/3 each: 1/3 have total or near-total cure of their homosexual impulses/acts, 1/3 have significant cure of their homosexual impulses/acts, and 1/3 have little or no cure of their homosexual impulses/acts. If we had such success with heart disease or cancer, we'd be hailing the miracle cure. It is very revealing that Matityahu aspires to be like "billions of creatures, ... like ferrets, rams, and Japanese macaques" ---to be like animals, instead of what God wants.... and he/she plans to adopt children. May God have mercy on those innocent babies!

Posted Monday, June 25, 2007 11:18 PM By Joyce Dietsch
First, they asked for acceptance, then the right to "marry" now they want to teach our children how to be perverts- ever wonder why this obsession with children? Holland has lowered the age of consent to 12 years old(!) "with parental permission"- check out brusselsjournal.com to see what Europe is going through.

Posted Tuesday, June 26, 2007 7:58 AM By Bill Bradly Jr., PhD
With the rates of heterosexual HIV and teenage pregnancy rising it is clear that abstinence-only teaching are not working. I think it's a great idea to educate our youth so that they may go out into the world and make conscious, smart and thoughtful decisions. We cannot live in fear of God and hope that he will keep our children safe from harm. We must educate them and teach them respect for themselves and their bodies. Loving God does not mean living an ignorant life. Gays and Lesbians are children of god too and deserve to be treated as such. Only God has the right to judge.

Posted Tuesday, June 26, 2007 8:13 AM By Mark
Since they don't reproduce and they often die young, they HAVE to recruit children to replenish their ranks.

Posted Tuesday, June 26, 2007 10:11 AM By EAS
Where are your Catholic standards, Dr. Bradley? You completely ignore eternal Catholic concerns to prioritize your subjective, relativistic temporal concerns. Bottom line for practicing Catholics: Getting to Heaven trumps orgasm, the rest of the worldly pleasures, and all the "pride" (a vice!) and "self esteem" hogwash. Loving God does not mean a SINFUL life.

Posted Tuesday, June 26, 2007 10:13 AM By judah
I'd like to see the statistical proof in "Doctor" Suter's quote: " about one-third of adult homosexuals engage in sex with minors." This is demonstrably false. This is like saying that white folks only get mugged by men of color - people love to generalize, since intellectualism is looked down upon in our country, and it's just plain EASIER to make gross generalizations. As for our loving G-d, why would he create so many instances of homosexuality in the animal kingdom if it's so "unnatural"? And how can of you claim that homosexuality can be "taught," do you really expect that a straight child can be taught to be gay? That's patently absurd.

Posted Tuesday, June 26, 2007 11:56 AM By William Keevers
I see a lot of anxiety revealed here, in some incendiary comments beyond the virtue of temperance. Be assured: God is not mocked; He has already won. Trust in Him, act under the motivation of the Holy Spirit. But please do not give the opposition a rationale for their extremism. Lack of charity is just gasoline poured on a fire.

Posted Tuesday, June 26, 2007 7:36 PM By "Doctor" Suter
Start here J-d-h: http://traditionalvalues.org/urban/one.php For example: In 1987, Dr. Stephen Rubin of Whitman College conducted a ten-state study of sex abuse cases involving school teachers. He studied 199 cases. Of those, 122 male teachers had molested girls, while 14 female teachers had molested boys. He also discovered that 59 homosexual male teachers had molested boys and four female homosexual teachers had molested girls. In other words, 32 percent of those child molestation cases involved homosexuals. Nearly a third of these cases come from only 1-2% of the population. Dr. Judith Reisman, in her book, Kinsey, Crimes & Consequences, describes the research done by Dr. Gene Abel. This researcher compared the molestation rates of self-confessed homosexual and heterosexual child molesters. In a sample of 153 homosexual molesters, they confessed to a total of 22,981 molestations. This is equivalent to 150 children per molester. Self-admitted heterosexual molesters admitted to 4,435 molestations. This comes to 19.8 victims per molester. Dr. Abel concluded that homosexuals “sexually molest young boys at an incidence that is occurring from five times greater than the molestation of girls.” This high rate of molestations by homosexuals is consistent with other studies conducted during the past several decades. Here are just a few studies that show homosexuals molesting children at epidemic rates: The Los Angeles Times conducted a survey in 1985 of 2,628 adults across the U.S. Of those, 27% of the women and 16% of the men had been sexually molested. Seven percent of the girls and 93% of the men had been molested by adults of the same sex. This means that 40% of child molestations were by homosexuals. (Los Angeles Times, August 25-6, 1985) In 1984, a Vermont survey of 161 adolescents who were sex offenders found that 35 of them were homosexuals (22%). (Wasserman, J., “Adolescent Sex Offenders—Vermont, 1984” Journal American Medical Association, 1986; 255:181-2) In 1991, of the 100 child molesters at the Massachusetts Treatment Center for Sexually Dangerous Persons, a third were heterosexual, a third were bisexual, and a third were homosexual. (Dr.

Posted Tuesday, June 26, 2007 8:09 PM By ES
J-d-h: The primary issue is that homosexual acts are sinful. Unless the Apostles were liars, God's (no hyphen) Law defines homosexual acts as sinful. Mosaic Law similarly forbade homosexual acts. Heterosexual sex occurs in "nature," but adultery is forbidden no matter how "natural" it is. Humans are different from animals.

Posted Tuesday, June 26, 2007 8:50 PM By stlouisix
If seemingly "homosexual" acts among animals are in accordance with animal nature, then parental killing of offspring and intra-species devouring are also in accordance with animal nature. Bringing man into the equation complicates things further. Are we to conclude that filicide and cannibalism are according to human nature? IT IS UNSCIENTIFIC TO "READ" HUMAN MOTIVATION AND SENTIMENT INTO ANIMAL BEHAVIOR! To do so is patently absurd! IRRATIONAL ANIMAL BEHAVIOR IS NO BLUEPRINT FOR RATIONAL MAN! The definition of man's nature belongs not to the realm of zoology or biology, but philosophy, in particular, the highest rung on the philosophical ladder which is metaphysics. The determination of what is morally good for man pertains to ethics in accord with the Natural Law of God. It is a frequent error for people to contrast human and animal behaviors, as if the two were homogenous. The laws ruling human behavior are of a different nature and they should be sought where God inscribed them, namely, in human nature.Man's rationality pervades the wholeness of his nature so that his sensations, instincts and impulses are not purely animal but have that seal of rationality which characterizes them as human. Thus, man is characterized not by what he has in common with animals, but by what differentiates him from them. This differentiation is fundamental, not accidental. To consider man strictly as an animal is to deny his rationality and, therefore, his free will. Likewise, to consider animals as if they were human is to attribute to them a non-existent rationality. The homosexual movement's attempt to establish that homosexuality is in accordance with human nature, by proving its animal homosexuality theory, is based more on mythological beliefs and erroneous philosophical tenets than on science. The J. of Homosexuality in 1990 said that parents should welcome the loving pedophile into their homes. (pp 162,164 on "intergenerational intimacy.")

Posted Wednesday, June 27, 2007 6:07 AM By ES
J-d-h, start here: http://traditionalvalues.org/urban/one.php AND HERE http://www.personal.psu.edu/glm7/m166.htm . I have also directed you to www.narth.com and www.cathmed.org/publications/homosexuality.htm.

Posted Wednesday, June 27, 2007 11:52 PM By jim in sf
I remain utterly amazed at the amount of in-depth study and energy expended by purportedly non-homosexuals on homosexuals and the arcane studies that have collectively proven nothing. Why on earth is it so important to exert the energy to stuff your heads with irrelevant pseudo-sociological data on a subject you find so repugnant. Goodness, if you hate homosexuals, perverts and sodomites so vehemently, why don't you study art or music, or St. Therese Lisieux, or something within which you find joy. Or how about a good examination of conscience - your conscience. Remove the beam in your own eye before fretting about the splinter in mine.

Posted Thursday, June 28, 2007 6:18 PM By David Ayer
Dear Friends, The article below from a Catholic association clearly demonstrates there are people in the Catholic Church who are doing great work for the safety of youth in this nation. The youth of this nation are on the front line in the cultural war here in the USA. Recently I was speaking with a Vermont Representative about the need for change in our public school policies, the property tax burden and other matters of concern. In our conversation I made the statement " in order for positive change to take place a tragedy may have to occur". The current trial of the Catholic Church may be such a tragedy. In light of this trial the question I would like cleared up, is, are people born gay? And if they are, what norms are we to expect from them in the way of behavior? Will we be required or forced to change our norms to accommodate them? Gay groups who advocate we accept their gay life theory are working over time to change societies norms. They have unlimited access to our public schools where children are being taught these new norms. Groups like RU12, Out Right Vermont, GLSEN, GSA, the NEA and several elected officals advocate that students embrace these different norms as detailed in the following article. If we and our children accept their position should we not be expected to change our norms and accept their behavior as normal? I must also ask, will we see the public school system be subjected to a trial for the wrongs being committed by these advocates and teachers or will the politically correct card trump any effort to protect children from the norms these people are teaching are children? What will the cost to tax payers be if victims come forward and claim justice and a big payday which may well come with it? Will we see over zealous prosecution of other institutions and people who oppose the move to accept the gay agenda? I recall how the Catholic Church was threatened with the loss of their tax exempt status if the church continued to advocate against efforts to pass gay marriage here in Vermont. Will this prosecution of the Catholic Church move the leadership of faith institutions in the direction of tolerance for advoca

Posted Thursday, June 28, 2007 9:06 PM By ES
Why Jim? We have a duty to resist the depravity that ever more poisons the world and destroys innocent souls for all eternity. We will not fiddle while Rome and San Francisco burn. The "born homosexual" ploy is a complete red herring. Even if it were so (it isn't so), doctors treat many genetic diseases. Do we throw up our hands and refuse to treat diabetics because they are "born that way"? Why do we don our waders to drain the swamp, Jim? "Not to oppose error is to approve it, and not to defend the truth is to suppress it, and indeed to neglect to confound evil men, when we can do it, is no less a sin than to encourage them. "—Pope St. Felix III

Posted Sunday, July 01, 2007 12:01 PM By Simon
I have had a chance to read all the postings,and let me start off by saying God hates all sin. Sin separates us from God and the love of God. But this God of love, loved mankind so much that he gave his only begotten son Jesus Christ who is God come to earth as a man to be crucified on the cross for the salvation of the sins of all mankind. In his posting of June 28, 2007 David Ayer raises some very important and legitimate concerns about where this agenda is going to take America and rest of the western world. To say the alarm bells have been ringing for a long time now while America and other nations are heading down an ominous and perilous road is an understatement. As David Ayer states in his posting, overzealous prosecutions will in fact become a reality leading to persecutions of the faithful with the Catholic Church being squarely right in the middle defending the Gospel and its teachings and Magisterium of the Catholic Church that has been around for over 2,000 years. It really does not seem to take a rocket scientist to figure out where all this is heading sometime in the near future. A God of love who created mankind and the Universe is in total control and will intervene at the approprite and exact moment in human history to make all that is wrong with the world right in an instant, just when we think things in this world are the bleakest.. But as Pope John Paul II continually proclaimed throughout his Papacy, "Be Not Afraid." Till then pray the Rosary with your families each and every day. Our Lady of Guadalupe Pray for America.

Posted Sunday, July 01, 2007 8:55 PM By WB
I think Jim in SF is pointing to what can be a disproportionate interest in homosexuality and social vices and decadence at the expense of many other aspects of life. For example, the fact that orthodox/traditional Catholics cannot produce any film, literature, art or music that is of high quality (there's not even much low quality) is an indication of skewed interests. For many, positive expressions of the glory of God and reflections of His creation through literature, film (the entire artistic genre is boycotted by trad Catholics) and other art forms is of no interest at all, apparently. Nobody (relatively speaking) will study it seriously, and nobody will cultivate any talent in those areas. Instead, we will see numerous detailed and exessively repetitive "analyses" of homosexual and other sexual sins. Certainly, there's a need to refute errors, but when this is the only activity that attracts the passionate interest of orthodox Catholics, one can rightly say that the matter of giving witness to the greatness of God and the Faith is of secondary (at best) interest. As Cardinal Ratzinger once said (and he was roundly and erroneously criticized by traditionalist Catholics) -- the Catholic Faith cannot be reduced to a collection of moral regulations. In the same way, a too steady and compulsive diet of stories and outrage about sexual scandals and moral disorders can give the impression that Catholicism is a religion that is primarily interested in having people become outraged about homosexuality and sexual sins (or any sins). But this generally doesn't win people to the Faith -- from one man's perspective here.

Posted Monday, July 02, 2007 12:31 AM By A GSA voice
I have read all postings, without a stop. One question I have is: Did anyone ask what we kids think? Or do you suppose we cannot think and need to be held by the hand all day. Parents and the government send us to school to learn how to think by ourselves, yet when asked about something such as homosexuality, or world peace. The only one we can speek on without having our hands slapped is world peace. Did you ever stop to think that maybe all the Gsa students already knew all about sex toys. I for one have known what sex toys were from an age of 12. And where I could get them without parents finding out. Most of your children have more knowledge of what goes on it the streets then you do most likely. Not that I mean any disrespect. Laurette Elsberry mentions "Wouldn't you think that the promotion of sex for children as young as 14 would be a crime? Nope, it is part of modern education." I have to say IT IS PART OF MODERN EDUCATION! I had 2 female firends lose their virginity at the age of 12 to older "boys" by their own choice. And one recived an S.T.D. Just because she didn't know how to protect herself. By the Gsa giving out information on how to use the Toys ...well lets just say we all already know how to use them, but they do need to teach people how you use a sex toy safely. I knew girls who use to share dildos( which causes more S.T.D.s). stlouisix, says "To say that this is perversely sick is the mother of all understatements." Well I hope you have listened to our new Hip hop music, which tells your "children" it's ok to have sex, drink, do drugs, and commit crimes. Yet here you are going against homosexuals. I am sorry if I sound Offensive but, well I am. I do not see how keeping your "children" Ignorent of the real world will help them out in the long run. I find many believe they are wise, I admit it is something many believe age gives you, No it's not. Wisdom comes with experience. And age is just a number, when all is said and done.

Posted Monday, July 02, 2007 6:32 PM By A gsa Voice
An engineering professor is treating her husband, a loan officer, to dinner for finally giving in to her pleas to shave off the scraggly beard he grew on vacation. His favorite restaurant is a casual place where they both feel comfortable in slacks and cotton/polyester-blend golf shirts. But, as always, she wears the gold and pearl pendant he gave her the day her divorce decree was final. They're laughing over their menus because they know he always ends up diving into a giant plate of ribs but she won't be talked into anything more fattening than shrimp. Quiz: How many biblical prohibitions are they violating? Well, wives are supposed to be 'submissive' to their husbands (I Peter 3:1). And all women are forbidden to teach men (I Timothy 2:12), wear gold or pearls (I Timothy 2:9) or dress in clothing that 'pertains to a man' (Deuteronomy 22:5). Shellfish and pork are definitely out (Leviticus 11:7, 10) as are usury (Deuteronomy 23:19), shaving (Leviticus 19:27) and clothes of more than one fabric (Leviticus 19:19). And since the Bible rarely recognizes divorce, they're committing adultery, which carries the rather harsh penalty of death by stoning (Deuteronomy 22:22). So why are they having such a good time? Probably because they wouldn't think of worrying about rules that seem absurd, anachronistic or - at best - unrealistic. Yet this same modern-day couple could easily be among the millions of Americans who never hesitate to lean on the Bible to justify their own anti-gay attitudes. ~Deb Price, And Say Hi To Joyce

Posted Monday, July 02, 2007 9:10 PM By ES
Evidently "GSA voice" has not yet learned to "think for herself." She can't quite connect the dots that her 12-year-old friend would have caught no disease if she had not had sex. "GSA voice's" response to the problem is akin to this: If your house is endangered by a mudslide, get a bulldozer to pack more mud into your home. So much for the effectiveness of institutional schooling whether by the Novus Ordo or by the government.

Posted Tuesday, July 03, 2007 10:37 AM By A Gsa Voice
It is nice to know that you think I do not think for myself,and you only have a childish comeback. I realize though that, that is how you think. ( though I hate to sink to your level to insult your way of thinking)And for me to sit here to go over this when ones mind is made up and they are too stubborn to change is well, a waste of my mind. When I really want to go back to my books. So I have to say that though to talk to someone on a childish level where all we will do is sit here and insult each other, to prove who is better. I must say I lost the intrest to those games along time ago. And now I really wish to go finish my book. And to the quote I sent in earlier I agree with it some what. I admit I will come back to see the childish comes backs for me I need something to laugh at every now and then. And Es I do believe that until you know me please do not pass judgement on me. As I should refrain from doing to you and others.

Posted Tuesday, July 03, 2007 12:04 PM By Joseph Gentilini
I find the enormous interest into the lives of gay persons by straights astonishing. I have lived in a faithful adult relationship with another man for over 25 years. Our lives are pretty mudane and ordinary. Our lives reflect the love of God for each other and for the world.

Posted Tuesday, July 03, 2007 12:17 PM By ES
I know what you wrote, GSA Voice. Your "solution" to preventing sex diseases was an endorsement of sex toy education. The most effective solution to sex disease is not wallowing in more sex, but no sex for the unmarried. Your alleged monogamy, Mr. Gentilini, is most unusual among homosexuals, but it is still a sin that cries to Heaven for vengeance.

Posted Friday, July 06, 2007 11:24 AM By A Gsa Voice
"To hear many religious people talk, one would think God created the torso, head, legs and arms, but the devil slapped on the genitals". ~Don Schrader

Posted Friday, July 06, 2007 8:29 PM By ES
GSA voice: The mere existence of a body part does not give you license to do wrong with it. You can have hands without using them to rob, extort, forge, defraud, suicide, or murder. You can have a torso without mutiliating it or abusing it with harmful substances. You can have a voice without lying, blaspheming, cursing, or deceiving. You can have genitals without fornicating, sodomizing, raping children, committing adultery, or masturbating with "sex toys." You can have a mind without conspiring to do evil. The devil tempts you to misuse your every body part and faculty. Have you ever considered the role of self-control in your life? Is impulse your only guide?

Posted Saturday, July 07, 2007 11:39 AM By Terry
Yes, GSA Voice, what makes you think having genitals means there are not good ways and evil ways to use them? Despite your proud claim about "thinking for yourself," it appears you don't think carefully at all. From what evidence you have provided here so far, it seems you fall for any foolish excuse that tickles your itchy ears... and genitals.

Posted Saturday, July 07, 2007 9:46 PM By A Gsa Voice
In truth for me to believe what I put up before that would mean I have to believe In the devil and God. ( I just put it up because it was what I found many believe) Sorry, I don't I found this site through a gsa link. I am Pagan. And In truth no one really has a "new thought" most likely someone has thought it before. And why think carefully I will only live once I want to live as I want to not as others tell me. Yes I know that thought is not independent, but no thought is really, humans all think alike at one point.

Posted Tuesday, July 10, 2007 1:38 AM By A Gsa voice
As I said before please do not judge me until you know me.

Posted Tuesday, July 10, 2007 6:49 PM By coreas
if one is gay or lesbian does not mean that you will teach what you do with other people. if you are the way you are is not because you wanted to be that way. children don't want to know about the trauma you go through everyday by being the way you are. please don't tell me that you are happy being gay or lesbian. there is nothing to be happy about that. i do not desire anyone to be gay or lesbian.

Posted Tuesday, July 10, 2007 10:40 PM By ES
GSA voice: astonishing incoherence.

Posted Thursday, July 12, 2007 3:33 AM By Bill
Two articles of interest: Students Fear 'Lesbian Gang' At School http://www.nbc10.com/news/2857417/detail.html Payback for exposé on 'dyke' gang rapes Homosexual activists attack revelations of lesbian assaults http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=56577

Posted Saturday, July 14, 2007 5:08 PM By ES
While there are technical differences between homosexuality and pedophilia, there is enormous overlap of the two diseases. Through the ages, sodomy of youths has been a persistent feature of the homosexual deathstyle. What the sodomite's partisan "researchers" have done is this: They use an unaccepted definition of "homosexuality" that excludes anyone who does have sex with minors. So, by their twisted definition, if an adult male has sex with even one minor male, he is defined as not being homosexual. By such means they deceive the public. Homosexuals are an enormous threat to children. The 1% of the population that is homosexual commits an enormous DISPROPORTION (ranging from 20% to 47% depending on the study) of sex abuse of minors. So, AT BEST, if one uses the accepted definition of homosexual, 1% of the population perpetrates 20% of sexual abuse against minors. Search scholar.google.com using "homosexuality" and "pedophilia," exclude the partisan research and reach your own conclusions.

Posted Saturday, September 01, 2007 3:31 AM By Ben Mills
I admire the circle that is the train of thought for most religious extreamists. How simple life must be for those who dont have to think for themselves but instead defer to an archaic book. Good on the GSA for teaching safe sexual practices for those that wish to learn. I myself have run numerous workshops at my university where I am the sexuality officer. To all of my fellow Queer's out there i say this; If we are going to 'burn in hell' at least we can take solace in the fact that the religeous right shall be elsewhere. PS: Ill bring the beer! :o)

Posted Monday, December 03, 2007 12:03 PM By straight man
ppl should be free to do what they want, as long as they dont harm others.......

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